Newbie. First Rifle .270 win or 7mm Rem Magnum

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So while I am waiting for my pals I have been researching like heck on what to buy. 2 Very good friends and guides have me looking at the weatherby vanguard series 2 stainless steel in either 7mm rem magnum or .270 win.

Im pairing this with the weatherby mounts and a redfield 3x9 40mm scope.

Any info appreciated!


FYI: I also posted this in newbie area to get info as well.

thanks for all your help!
 
flip a coin. They're both good; any differences between them aren't worth talking about (although I'm sure there will be tons of discussion regardless!)
 
prosper said:
flip a coin. They're both good; any differences between them aren't worth talking about (although I'm sure there will be tons of discussion regardless!)
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Quoted for truth....

Owned both calibers, sold the magnum...the rifle didn't fit me as well, it recoiled harder? Subjective.
I also like .270 for deer. Also subjective.
Factory boolits r cheeper. .270 findable at CT.
 
I have a 270 win Weatherby vanguard that I like very much for deer, I think the 7mm is a better all round caliber, so it depends on your plans,
 
According to my research, many people say the 270 is more of an east-coast caliber and the 7mm is a more suitable west coast caliber. I'd have to agree with that, especially if large bears are on the menu.

Still, I personally think the .270 win is the king of calibers if you use the matrix of; cost of factory ammo, trajectory & terminal ballistics, to compare performance differences between calibers. IMO, the 270 gets you the best combination of as a whole; flattest shooting, hardest hitting, cheapest to fire caliber of what is commonly available off the shelf.

If we compare oranges to oranges (similar bullet grains), in many ballistics charts, the .270 keeps up to or exceeds FPE compared to siblings like .308 and 30-06 AND has less bullet drop. Even heavier .308 and 30-06 loads don't spread the FPE gap noticeably enough if the they do at all. I'd say that it is plausible that the .308 and 30-06 might have that extra x-factor edge over the .270 in some situations, but it's curious how no one can objectively measure or demonstrate it.
 
out of the 2, I'd have to go 270 Win. I have no use for any magnum for what I do! (other than 357mag & 44mag) But, I'm a short action fan, so what do I know? ;) my top bunk is full of such things as 257 Roberts, 260, 7x57, 7mm-08, 308 etc.
If you're a newbie to shooting, Beware! Don't start off with a magnum! Unless of coarse, you are one big tough fearless stuborn son-of-a-#####! A self inflicted flinch is a bad thing and very hard to get rid of! And yes, the 7RM can send a newbie shooter to the golf club range rather quickly, in spite of what the He-Men to follow will tell you! Good luck!
 
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They are equally effective all the way up to Moose. There is really no difference between the two on game.
.270 for a first timer all the way. Less recoil and I find less muzzle blast as well.
 
Loaded with similar bullets, I doubt if the target could tell one from the other. A difference of .007" in bullet diameter has no real world meaning. Of the two, I'd choose the .270 to avoid the belt, and to get similar velocities with less powder. Another option is a .280 Remington, if the .270's .007" smaller diameter creates a mental block.

IIRC, fabled Alaskan bear guide and game warden Hosea Sarber killed more than a few grizzlies with his .270. The idea that a 7 mag can while a .270 can't doesn't make much sense. Choose a cartridge that uses a bullet with enough mass to ensure a foot and a half of penetration after expansion and you have a winner.
 
I'd go 270wby personally but since it wasn't on the list I'd choose 270. Having shot but not owned each. I say its all in the marketing hype. If u wanna say "I got a magnum" then take the 7mm. If you want traditional take the 270. I don't think the vangurd comes in 270wby. the 270win is found everywhere and will be a good rifle for deer with cheap bullets as its velocity and deer do not need or require premium bullets. The 7mm mag has its place in longer range shooting with heavier bullets but no offense if you're new to hunting and rifles you shouldn't be shooting at game at long enough ranges to take advantage of what the magnum can offer

Be warned now. This will not be your last rifle
 
For me this comes down to weight and balance VS power and recoil.
If 7mags were as light and handy as 270s I would have one.

Trivia .277"=7mm so a 270 is a 7mm, and a 7mm isn't
 
All the above. A .270 will do you fine, especially if you are new to shooting. You will appreciate the low recoil, and less expensive ammo.
 
Smaller lighter rifle
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You might want to look up the specs for the specific rifle model that he is asking about, as Weathery lists the length and weight in both 270win, and 7mmrem mag, as being exactly the same. But don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
 
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