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I went to Wholesale Sports to shop for a ruger 10/22. They didn't have any but I ended up buying a rimfire scope for my cooey 64. When I showed the cooey model 64 to the guy at the counter he said that the cooey is built better, has stronger steel, more accurate and will last longer then any 10/22.

I did compare and belive he is right that the winchester/cooey model 64 is better.

Whats your thoughts?
 
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This "Witch" gun is better

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Cooey 64Bs and the various successors are decent .22s. Still in production by Savage.
The steel used in a Ruger is every bit as good as that in a Cooey & vice versa. The Cooey does have a steel receiver, the Ruger uses alloy.
Accuracy? Probably comparable.
Lifespan? Take care of either, and they'll last a long time. Ruger is easier to strip for cleaning.
The Ruger magazine will last longer than the injection moulded zinc alloy Cooey/Winchester/Savage magazines, which do wear out. No big deal to get new ones.
 
Cooey's are WITCH guns... 10/22's are for WARLOCK's... only you can determine if the Cooey is right for you.
 
sounds more like speculation as he tries to make himself sound like an expert. My 10/22 is 23 yrs old and still runs great all day long. The only mods were 'cause I can, not 'cause it needed it.
 
Without a serial number and having a bakolite mag...my '64 still runs like a champ and i myself have put many thousands thru her. I speculate she is about 70 years old. But your choice when you read about the mods that the 1022 goes thru to make it shoot. about the only thing left that is original is the action. Not that some mods are necessary but thoughts turn to how to improve. my opinion only.
 
which gun

I am not saying that the ruger 10/22 is bad. I was just told that the cooey is built better. However I am sure as you all have mentioned both are great plinkers.
 
The Cooey is not built better. It was designed for very economical production.
The 10/22 is a more sophisiticated design. Recent ones have incorporated a plastic trigger guard, to reduce costs. Doubt that this affects usefulness, although there are those who wax nostalgic about the good old days when diecast alloy was used.

When I was running my gunsmithing shop, I would get badly abused and neglected 64s and 10/22s brought in. I was impressed that both could usually be returned to a functional condition. Pretty hard to kill either.

There are myriad aftermarket parts and accessories for 10/22s. Accessorizing the rifle has become an industry. Some of the add ons actually improve the rifle; others are good for business.
Apart from spare magazines, little is available for the 64s.
 
Some people love to hate the 10/22 because it's so popular. In reality it's a great, reliable, shooting gun and has some tight grouping potential. I would take what he says with a grain of salt.
 
The 10/22 is a good rifle.
So is the 64, in its various iterations.
Don't overlook the Marlin 60 series.

These three have been in continuous production for generatiions for good reason.
 
I adore my 64's, and poke fun at 10/22's where I can.

That said, I'm not willing to spout the 64 is better built...I adore them because historically, they cost about half a 10/22 (not so true today), and shot more accurately out of the box. Very simple design. Once you catch on to cleaning them every 500-1000 rds, they run very well.

Here goes...crow eating time. The 10/22 rotary mag was a cool innovation, allowing for 10 shots, in a box, flush fitting. Can't deny it...that is cool. 10/22's are more forgiving of dry fires. Doesn't appeal to me, but there is a large following of "dressers/modifiers" of which the 10/22 has many aftermarket bits.

"Better" is a gestalt thing...we all have our reasons/motivators. My original .22 is a Cooey 64, converted to use metal mags. It is older than me, but runs very well. Still a favorite among many .22's.
 
As a Marlin semi fan, it pains me to say this...but I'd get a 10/22 before that 64. WAY before. With an ounce of care, I doubt most of us would outlive either gun.

My own decision to sell my 10/22 and get a Marlin 795 should say a little about what I think of the 10/22 and other .22 semi alternatives. If I get another .22 semi (unlikely, I prefer bolts) it'll be a Marlin 60 with a laminate stock. To be 100% honest, I don't even like the look of those 64s, never have.
 
There's a few things I don't like about the 64:
- the mags suck (10/22 mags are much better)
- floating firing pin that will peen the chamber on a dry fire (10/22 does not)
- heavy trigger pull that is not easy to correct (10/22 is a joke to lighten)
- I don't like the way its put together.....ie the way the barrel/extractor/trigger/mag is attached for some reason. Its not difficult to take down but I just don't like it.

....what I don't like about the 10/22:
- fairly pricey
- the extractor often has to be replaced
- heavy trigger pull but its easily lightened

both have mediocre accuracy and both are pretty reliable once you get the bugs (if any) out (usually mag issues for the 64....extractor for 10/22)

10/22 has high cap mags and aftermarket parts galore. 64 has basically no aftermarket parts/accessories.

Of the 2, my vote is for the 10/22....but as mentioned I would also suggest a marlin 60 or 795.
 
no one has mentioned that you can get a 10/22 USED , and if a good price, you can spring for a new barrel or re-config it into a uncle tom's white lightning - that's how i got my second one- had the choate folding stock on it too- and you don't need a smith to switch barrels
 
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There's a few things I don't like about the 64:
- the mags suck (10/22 mags are much better)
- floating firing pin that will peen the chamber on a dry fire (10/22 does not)
- heavy trigger pull that is not easy to correct (10/22 is a joke to lighten)
- I don't like the way its put together.....ie the way the barrel/extractor/trigger/mag is attached for some reason. Its not difficult to take down but I just don't like it.

....what I don't like about the 10/22:
- fairly pricey
- the extractor often has to be replaced
- heavy trigger pull but its easily lightened

both have mediocre accuracy and both are pretty reliable once you get the bugs (if any) out (usually mag issues for the 64....extractor for 10/22)

10/22 has high cap mags and aftermarket parts galore. 64 has basically no aftermarket parts/accessories.

Of the 2, my vote is for the 10/22....but as mentioned I would also suggest a marlin 60 or 795.
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Just a question about 10/22 extractors. Everyone touts them as being a severe problem with the 10/22, absolutely "needing" replacement but both my new and old 10/22's have there originals and have never given me problems. Is it just with match chambers or certain crappy ammo? Or is it only a problem on the odd 10/22?
 
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