M&P40 & Copies

Thanks for all the help fellows.
Canuck44: what about an M&P9 VTAC? Its not tacticool black (lol): would it have the same or similar specs and feel to it, if running hot 9mm loads? I currently have some AE 124gr 9mm- would that suffice?

babboybeeson: Sending PM
 
forbes/hutton said:
Get a range kit as it has the heavy trigger.

The CFO required that all armored/armed guards have guns with 8.5 or heavier triggers.
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What's the trigger tested at on the range kit? Standard M&P40s have 6.5, VTAC 9mm has a 6.0 and the M&P40 Pro has a 4.5.

I suppose I could get one model, and switch out the springs for a stiffer set.
 
Why the secrecy? Brinks carries M&P40s except for Montreal where they carry a different type of S$W semi autos, G4S carriers revolvers. Churchill carried Glock22s for a while, then switched back to revolvers...

It's not a state secret or anything and if they offer you a job, they'll provide the training and the firearm. The qualifying standards are not at a special forces level or anything so you should be ok without having to buy your own firearm...

You'll also train and qualify on the Remington 870 pump action shotgun.
 
climbtime said:
:agree:
Glock feels and handles very differently, and the trigger pulls are worlds apart. Don't build in training scars...
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The fundementals of marksmanship are the same whether shooting a Glock or a Ruger or a Smith & Wesson. With solid fundementals (which is most important for a new shooter) you should shoot good groups with any pistol or revolver in your safe. Prioritize the fundementals not the model.
 
djmay71 said:
Thanks for all the help fellows.
Canuck44: what about an M&P9 VTAC? Its not tacticool black (lol): would it have the same or similar specs and feel to it, if running hot 9mm loads? I currently have some AE 124gr 9mm- would that suffice?

babboybeeson: Sending PM
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All the 9MM/.40cal M&P FS guns utilize the same frame and slide set-up. The range kit offers good value and certainly would give you a gun to practice with on your own. I wouldn't get to hung up on 9MM vs 40 cal. For you, unless your employer is going to provide you with practice ammo, cost of same should be considered. That being the case the 9MM gun is going to be cheaper to run.

Like I said earlier, blind folded you wouldn't know which caliber of gun you have in your hands. I have four M&P set-ups with trigger pulls ranging from 2.75#'s to 5.25#'s. When shooting IDPA stages under the stress of competition I can't say I notice much difference in any of the guns. The lighter trigger pull helps on longer shots when shooting Standard Exercises. Given that experience I wouldn't worry about matching trigger pulls either.

If I were you I would look for a new/used standard 9MM M&P (Range Kit for a complete set-up) and go out and practice and play. I am sure your employer will provide you with more than adequate training and with your own gun you should have no trouble qualifying. Don't over think the issue.

Take Care

Bob
 
Dale.Gribble said:
Garda and Brinks are M&P .40. Garda is Glock 17 gen 3 and Inkas is Glock 22 Gen 3.5.

I'm glad we didn't switch to glocks, I own to personelly, but like my m&p better.
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Why in Gods name would Garda be using G17s, esp. Gen3? They have to be the most backward of all companies.

BTW- You put Garda twice. :p
 
SFRC has Smith & Wesson M&P 40 PRO in stock for $750..

Wanstall also have the Smith & Wesson M&P Range Kit .40 S&W in stock for $699.99.

Ellwood Epps have one Smith & Wesson M&P Range Kit .40 S&W in stock for $656.25.
 
cariboocreek said:
The fundementals of marksmanship are the same whether shooting a Glock or a Ruger or a Smith & Wesson. With solid fundementals (which is most important for a new shooter) you should shoot good groups with any pistol or revolver in your safe. Prioritize the fundementals not the model.
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I'm surprised nobody else has plus oned this yet. Anyway... +1
 
evan the cdn said:
I'm surprised nobody else has plus oned this yet. Anyway... +1
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Basic marksmanship is a great good thing, but it's nice to have a duplicate of your duty pistol so armoured crewmen [crewpersons? crewthings?] can use it with their issued holster and other equipment at the range. Being totally familiar with your duty pistol, rather than shooting it just at qualification time, is a great good thing too.
 
i just put 200 dollars down on one at my local shop got the range and carry kit 3 mags a holster a couple different backstraps for the grip a pair hearing protection a loader and a loackable transport case. for 669.99
 
@ tengoo: Lets go with crewthings lol.

So I'm going to hold off (hopgully not too long), and get one from SFRC. Might decide on the PRO- still undecided.

Also- does CZ or Norc make any GOOD copies of the M&P40?
 
djmay71 said:
@ tengoo: Lets go with crewthings lol.

So I'm going to hold off (hopgully not too long), and get one from SFRC. Might decide on the PRO- still undecided.

Also- does CZ or Norc make any GOOD copies of the M&P40?
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I think your perception of what CZ does is a little skewed. They don't make copies and in general aren't lesser quality than any of the other major firearm manufacturers. On the other hand, AFAIK Norinco is an exporter that puts their name on products (usually copies of existing designs) made buy various factories where they can pay people cents/day. That's why the quality varies so much from model to model.

I've never seen a copy of an M&P.
 
evan the cdn said:
I think your perception of what CZ does is a little skewed. They don't make copies and in general aren't lesser quality than any of the other major firearm manufacturers. On the other hand, AFAIK Norinco is an exporter that puts their name on products (usually copies of existing designs) made buy various factories where they can pay people cents/day. That's why the quality varies so much from model to model.

I've never seen a copy of an M&P.
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Thanks for the informative correction.

Correction: Do any manufacturers make a firearm similar to the M&P40?
 
If by similar, you mean a polymer frame, without a manual external safety, a number of manufacturers produce pistols of this type.
If you want a M&P, get a M&P.
Ditto, Glock.
Ditto, Walther.
Etc.
You've got a Glock. Work on your fundamentals with it. The course you may take isn't rocket science or training for competitive shooting excellence. Other folks taking the course with you will not own any personal handguns.
 
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