Canucks' Booth taking heat for bear baiting excursion

So is putting a worm on a hooknline not considered fishing........f:P:

Yep it is. Fishing is fishing, hunting is hunting. That was an easy question. Any tougher ones?

That facepalm has to be the most overused emoticon ever. Brutal. It's like people think it actually adds to their point. I saw one the other day where someone used it 6 times in their post. They must have really meant what they were saying.

J
 
^ To all hunters reading this: If Mods giving guys infractions (or even banning guys), is what it would take to make hunters realize that we cannot rip on others for pursuing their type of hunting (as long as it's legal), then yeah, I am serious. All of us hunters have to stop this type of s**t! We gotta support each other!

It's real easy to just 'walk away'. If you don't like it, then go do something else. Feel free to enter into discussion on anything you do like and leave the stuff that bothers you to f**k alone...


We're all hunters right?

Well what good does it do when any of us, comes into a thread, and starts with running it down, saying "it's not hunting" or whatever? There's just no benefit whatsoever in doing that.

A bunch of people have given excellent explanations regarding the effort and difficulty of bear baiting, yet guys persist in running it down. It's an annual thing actually, with the holy-than-thou crowd on here, and it pisses me right to f**k off!


And I will admit, I have been guilty of doing it in the past. I've made comments regarding crossbow hunting, long range hunting etc...

Those times, I did that, I got shouted down pretty quickly, and good on those guys for setting me straight. But I learned not to criticize other guys, that are engaged in perfectly legal hunting activiites, whether it's my thing or not.




Jim.

Very well put! Just because you don't like some form of hunting doesn't mean it's wrong or that other people don't enjoy it. If you don't happen to like a particular type of hunting, keep your cakehole shut and move on. There are lots of other forums and posts for you to peruse without pissing other people off. Don't go away mad, just go away!
 
Sitting in a tree stand hunting big game is not for me, hell the animal would spot me before I knew it was there. I would be to fidgety, possibly afraid of heights in a swaying tree, besides I don't know how to text on my cell phone. I wouldn't know what bait to place out for bears...................do they like pizza? I think that I will remain at ground zero and hunt bears over dandilions and clover in a natural meadow.

To each their own, however hunting big game in a tree stand over bait is not for me. I take pride in my hunting method and that is ground zero with "only" a gun, ammo, bino's, knife, rope, sandwich, water and them hit the big bush, oh ya, my hunting licence. When their down, no ATV, I carry them out. Personally, I pride myself over Booth, but not to proud to place it on You tube. This brown was taken in the Chinchaga area, not a location for the faint of heart hunters.............hunters are bear bait themselves.
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What a man you are, truly amazing !! Grizzly Adams would bow to your masculinity and Chuck Norris is sh1tting his pants as we speak!

And only a real hunter would wear shorts in Canada bear hunting during fly season? :cool: Laugh2

Nice cub,BTW. An adult bear may have been a touch harder to "pack out".
 
my dad told me about a guy that had shot a deer and was packing it out the same way,he was shot and killed by another hunter who was completly exhonerated as this is perhaps the most dangerous way to remove an animal from the woods.even with red ribbons and flags all over it I wouldn't pack an animal this way.there are enough guys out there that shoot at noises ,when they see somthing brown its on.
 
What a man you are, truly amazing !! Grizzly Adams would bow to your masculinity and Chuck Norris is sh1tting his pants as we speak!

And only a real hunter would wear shorts in Canada bear hunting during fly season? :cool: Laugh2

Nice cub,BTW. An adult bear may have been a touch harder to "pack out".

That is a very impressive pic!

J
 
That facepalm has to be the most overused emoticon ever. Brutal. It's like people think it actually adds to their point. I saw one the other day where someone used it 6 times in their post. They must have really meant what they were saying.

J

That was me. The 6x facepalm simply means that the comment that the facepalm was referring to was 6x as stupid as the second most stupid comment I've ever read on CGN.
 
I believe yourself and Hoytcanon are missing the point. Scouting, hauling bait, trail cameras, etc, etc, etc for humpteen days or weeks is prep work. Preparing for the hunt shows alot of devotion, work and enthusiam, however; it is prep work, not the actual hunting. The method utilized by yourself and others is to scout by using bait and trail camera, sit in a tree stand, using a high tech bow or rifle, some are guided (Booth), using a range finder, texting to your buddies that I'm hunting bears. I smell something fishy, fish in a barrel that is. Where is the challenge?

The prep work is the challenge...You still need to take the right shot, at the right time, at the proper angle to ensure a quick dispatch of the animal.

I'm sure the anti-baiters out there do absolutely no research or scouting prior to their hunt to see where animals are hanging out, or their daily patterns....

I'm so sick of so called "hunters" who think their way of hunting is the best and only way. As far as I'm concerned, if something is legal, then have at er...I may not do it, but it is most certainly hunting if it is regulated by provincial game laws.
 
What a man you are, truly amazing !! Grizzly Adams would bow to your masculinity and Chuck Norris is sh1tting his pants as we speak!

And only a real hunter would wear shorts in Canada bear hunting during fly season? :cool: Laugh2
Nice cub,BTW. An adult bear may have been a touch harder to "pack out".

Glad someone else noticed this little "tid-bit". That's nuts! :eek:
 
I'm not #####ing down bear baiting. Just simply stating it is not hunting. IDK what you are getting all mad about.

I just called a relative who is a guide. He baits bears for the Americans to come up and shoot. Although the bait has to be gone before they shoot, he says he could easily bait a bear in and shoot it and agrees that baiting is not hunting.

I would hope you aren't suggesting mods ban people for opinions.

As far as all the other comparisons, would anyone here consider spotlighting hunting?

J

People are getting mad because you are insulting the way they choose to legally HUNT.

I'm curious to hear what your definition of hunting is...What is acceptable in Juan's eyes?...What should everyone else do to conform to your elitist ideology of "hunting"?
 
The prep work is the challenge...You still need to take the right shot, at the right time, at the proper angle to ensure a quick dispatch of the animal.

I'm sure the anti-baiters out there do absolutely no research or scouting prior to their hunt to see where animals are hanging out, or their daily patterns....

I'm so sick of so called "hunters" who think their way of hunting is the best and only way. As far as I'm concerned, if something is legal, then have at er...I may not do it, but it is most certainly hunting if it is regulated by provincial game laws.

Never required bait, tree stands ,trail cameras, ATV, range finder, GPS or other high tech gadgets...............just good old scouting and hunting. Find bear tracks, scat, clover, dandilions, etc and you will find the bear................tracks is the best indicator. I never could imagine hunting "any" big game animal over bait, I find it most unsporting and reeks no hunting skills from this method. Law or no law, it's shooting fish in a barrel.
 
Sitting in a tree stand hunting big game is not for me, hell the animal would spot me before I knew it was there. I would be to fidgety, possibly afraid of heights in a swaying tree, besides I don't know how to text on my cell phone. I wouldn't know what bait to place out for bears...................do they like pizza? I think that I will remain at ground zero and hunt bears over dandilions and clover in a natural meadow.

To each their own, however hunting big game in a tree stand over bait is not for me. I take pride in my hunting method and that is ground zero with "only" a gun, ammo, bino's, knife, rope, sandwich, water and them hit the big bush, oh ya, my hunting licence. When their down, no ATV, I carry them out. Personally, I pride myself over Booth, but not to proud to place it on You tube. This brown was taken in the Chinchaga area, not a location for the faint of heart hunters.............hunters are bear bait themselves.
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I believe yourself and Hoytcanon are missing the point. Scouting, hauling bait, trail cameras, etc, etc, etc for humpteen days or weeks is prep work. Preparing for the hunt shows alot of devotion, work and enthusiam, however; it is prep work, not the actual hunting. The method utilized by yourself and others is to scout by using bait and trail camera, sit in a tree stand, using a high tech bow or rifle, some are guided (Booth), using a range finder, texting to your buddies that I'm hunting bears. I smell something fishy, fish in a barrel that is. Where is the challenge?

WOW... Am I disappointed in your attitude!

I have read your posts and seen your game pics. I have identified and appreciated your obvious love and passion for hunting and the outdoors... the arrogance of your posts here on baiting is VERY disappointing... it is not I who missed the point, Mr. Track. I am 47 years old... I have been hunting since I was four (first grouse with a Crosman MKI pistol)... when I was sixteen I took five deer in under five minutes (group hunt with appropriate tags) with a Winchester model 94 in .32 Special... after that hunt, I hung up my rifles and have been bowhunting ever since. I have taken dozens of deer, bear, and moose with archery equipment, I have never used a rifle on big game since then. Here is a quote of yours from above;

"I take pride in my hunting method and that is ground zero with "only" a gun, ammo, bino's, knife, rope, sandwich, water and them hit the big bush, oh ya, my hunting licence."

So let me get this straight... the guy who spends weeks of his time and money and knowledge and insight into game movement and who manages the hunting scene and then successfully "ARROWS" a dandy bruin... "IS NOT" hunting? But the guy who saunters up to a meadow in his shorts and flip flops and shoots a bear at 300 yards with his high powered, scoped centerfire, "IS" hunting???

That my friend is pure "judgement" and "arrogance"... and it is why the sporting community continues to be divided and why the anti-hunting movement continues to make inroads in seeking further bans of our "hunting heritage" priveleges.

You have the nerve to make condescending comments about rangefinders regarding archery equipment use on game animals (where arrows drop in FEET over the span of 50-60 yards)... and yet you shoot rifles that have an MPBR of 300+ yards... where there is NO need for holdover on any biggame animal... a big game animal which I might add mostly likely never knows that you are around until he is pushing up the daisies... where 90% of the bow kills I have are under 20 yards and some measured in feet and inches... and also, most I might add, were taken using spot and stalk methods... except when I am calling in the animals using mouth blown calls, of course moose is using a hand made birch bark horn, which goes well with my hand woven wool... I like wool because it keeps me warm and dry, when I portage in my canoe miles and through numerous lakes to get into real wilderness for big bulls...

My point here is not at all to bash hunting with rifles... it is of course hunting. My son recently became interested in centerfires, and we have a number of them and are working up hand loads for various game species....

My point is that people that " wear shorts in glass houses" shouldn't throw stones.

Shame on you.

P.S - I have pics of bigger bears than that on my back... I even have a pic of one strapped to me like a passenger on the back of my dirt bike... from back when I was a teenager (I believe that was my first archery bear).

Granted I wasn't wearing shorts... but then I don't have your legs.

Hoyt.

10 pt. buck rattled in and taken on the ground @ 10 yards;

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Bull moose, called in and taken at 15 FEET, while on my knees... arrow actually went UP through him;

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Boar taken by calling in with a fawn in distress call... shot at 10 FEET;

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Boar taken while hunting a bait that I located and worked for six weeks prior to hunting... backpacking the bait two miles in to a saddle in a ridge in a Farmer John rucksack (it took four of us on two poles to get him out... you might be tough Track, but you would not have put this one on your back!);

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Here's a link to an article about hunters attacking hunters:

hxxp://www.chuckhawks.com/column62_hunters_vs_hunters.htm

Well worth a read.
 
People are getting mad because you are insulting the way they choose to legally HUNT.

I'm curious to hear what your definition of hunting is...What is acceptable in Juan's eyes?...What should everyone else do to conform to your elitist ideology of "hunting"?

Alright, in reading all the posts I will go back on what I said and say it is hunting, not my thing, but none the less that doesn't make it any less than hunting. Who knows maybe I will give it a try with someone now.

I didn't intend to insult anyone but I certainly see why you would be from my opinion.

And finally, that dude carrying the bear is impressive!

J
 
WOW... Am I disappointed in your attitude!

I have read your posts and seen your game pics. I have identified and appreciated your obvious love and passion for hunting and the outdoors... the arrogance of your posts here on baiting is VERY disappointing... it is not I who missed the point, Mr. Track. I am 47 years old... I have been hunting since I was four (first grouse with a Crosman MKI pistol)... when I was sixteen I took five deer in under five minutes (group hunt with appropriate tags) with a Winchester model 94 in .32 Special... after that hunt, I hung up my rifles and have been bowhunting ever since. I have taken dozens of deer, bear, and moose with archery equipment, I have never used a rifle on big game since then. Here is a quote of yours from above;

"I take pride in my hunting method and that is ground zero with "only" a gun, ammo, bino's, knife, rope, sandwich, water and them hit the big bush, oh ya, my hunting licence."

So let me get this straight... the guy who spends weeks of his time and money and knowledge and insight into game movement and who manages the hunting scene and then successfully "ARROWS" a dandy bruin... "IS NOT" hunting? But the guy who saunters up to a meadow in his shorts and flip flops and shoots a bear at 300 yards with his high powered, scoped centerfire, "IS" hunting???

That my friend is pure "judgement" and "arrogance"... and it is why the sporting community continues to be divided and why the anti-hunting movement continues to make inroads in seeking further bans of our "hunting heritage" priveleges.

You have the nerve to make condescending comments about rangefinders regarding archery equipment use on game animals (where arrows drop in FEET over the span of 50-60 yards)... and yet you shoot rifles that have an MPBR of 300+ yards... where there is NO need for holdover on any biggame animal... a big game animal which I might add mostly likely never knows that you are around until he is pushing up the daisies... where 90% of the bow kills I have are under 20 yards and some measured in feet and inches... and also, most I might add, were taken using spot and stalk methods... except when I am calling in the animals using mouth blown calls, of course moose is using a hand made birch bark horn, which goes well with my hand woven wool... I like wool because it keeps me warm and dry, when I portage in my canoe miles and through numerous lakes to get into real wilderness for big bulls...

My point here is not at all to bash hunting with rifles... it is of course hunting. My son recently became interested in centerfires, and we have a number of them and are working up hand loads for various game species....

My point is that people that " wear shorts in glass houses" shouldn't throw stones.

Shame on you.

P.S - I have pics of bigger bears than that on my back... I even have a pic of one strapped to me like a passenger on the back of my dirt bike... from back when I was a teenager (I believe that was my first archery bear).

Granted I wasn't wearing shorts... but then I don't have your legs.

Hoyt.

10 pt. buck rattled in and taken on the ground @ 10 yards;

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Bull moose, called in and taken at 15 FEET, while on my knees... arrow actually went UP through him;

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Boar taken by calling in with a fawn in distress call... shot at 10 FEET;

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Boar taken while hunting a bait that I located and worked for six weeks prior to hunting... backpacking the bait two miles in to a saddle in a ridge in a Farmer John rucksack (it took four of us on two poles to get him out... you might be tough Track, but you would not have put this one on your back!);

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You still don't get the point. Your comparing bow hunting with rifle and prep work as "hunting" in your mini bio. My comments were directed regarding hunting over "bait".........hence, the OP's initial comment/thread. Go ahead and sit on your laurels 15 to 20 feet in a tree stand with gun or bow and "kill/ambush" a big game animal over a bait pile. Not my idea of hunting, nor with many other hunters and non hunters.
As for electronic tech gadgets and such,(cell phones, GPS, trail camera's, range finders, scent lures, bait, tree stands, ground blinds, ATV, etc) where does the hunting skills come in?
I believe in humane kills and that is why I hunt with only a rifle.................much more deadly than a bow and arrow or any other legal weapon. I'm not here to compare who harvested the biggest animal, however; big mature whitetails are my favorite to hunt because they are most cunning and smartest of all big game animals.

My point is that I don't avocate killing big game animals over "bait", weather it is with a rifle or bow and arrow.

P.S. Nice bear, but I wouldnt shoot an immature moose or whitetail.................try the real big boys, they are quite challenging.
 
You still don't get the point. Your comparing bow hunting with rifle and prep work as "hunting" in your mini bio. My comments were directed regarding hunting over "bait".........hence, the OP's initial comment/thread. Go ahead and sit on your laurels 15 to 20 feet in a tree stand with gun or bow and "kill/ambush" a big game animal over a bait pile. Not my idea of hunting, nor with many other hunters and non hunters.
As for electronic tech gadgets and such,(cell phones, GPS, trail camera's, range finders, scent lures, bait, tree stands, ground blinds, ATV, etc) where does the hunting skills come in?
I believe in humane kills and that is why I hunt with only a rifle.................much more deadly than a bow and arrow or any other legal weapon. I'm not here to compare who harvested the biggest animal, however; big mature whitetails are my favorite to hunt because they are most cunning and smartest of all big game animals.

My point is that I don't avocate killing big game animals over "bait", weather it is with a rifle or bow and arrow.

P.S. Nice bear, but I wouldnt shoot an immature moose or whitetail.................try the real big boys, they are quite challenging.


You don't even know that you sound retarded, and that's scary...

Let's see some pics of those big whitetails you've killed.
 
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You don't even know that you sound retarded, and that's scary...

Let's see some pics of those big whitetails you've killed.

Tisk, Tisk name calling is very imature. Sad, very sad. Try to stay on track to the subject matter instead of using imature comments.
 
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