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My cousin is a member of the range and has applied and is waiting for his restricted to come in.

Can he do the ATT course before it comes in just so he can speed up the process?
 
ATT - Authorization To Transport - not a test, either the owner or the club applies on behlf of the gun owner.

This is something the CFO issues to allow you to take your gun from the home to the range.
 
The ATT course IS a club level safety course. It is an additional way for the club to raise some funds & to ensure that each member knows the rules and policies of their particular club.
 
ATT course? Definitely not an Ontario thing, most ranges want let you apply for an ATT without possession of a restricted firearm, stores won't let you purchase a firearm with out your restricted PAL... So unless he already has a restricted firearm, then he doesnt need an ATT.

However, if he does have a restricted firearm already, then all he needs to do is prefill it out, and when his RPAL does arrive then he can submit it to his range
 
Ontario cfo will not issue a long term att unless you are a member of a club and the club applies on your behalf. In order for the club to apply for you, you must take the club level att course.

I am on the exec at HAHA and do all the clubs memberships. When a member does not renew , we have been told by ontario cfo that we must call them to cancel their att
 
In Alberta you apply for your own AT.T.. Go get your RPAL, join a gunclub, call the Feds and in 3 to 5 days your A.T.T. will show up in your mailbox. You don't have to take another course at the range like here in Nazitario. You don't have to kiss up to some pathetic idiot at a gun club who's new information on the safe handling of firearms you already know from the hours you spent getting your RPAL to begin with. About the only new thing the gunclub guy will show you is where the outhouses are. In Alberta they have a bad habit of treating you like an adult. Interesting concept, don't you think.
 
I'm so glad I live in Alberta. Like the previous post said, long term ATT's take just a few days, they mail them real quick, and short term ATT's take only a few minutes for them to email them to you. I'm never moving.
 
Yes, another course. Do it, stay safe, it never hurts to take everything you possible can!! but this one is a minimum mandatory "no-brainer".
 
Do you guys have to renew gun club memberships in Alberta, in order to retain your long term ATT and keep it "actual"?

I effing hate the way these ATT's work, especially in Ontario. "Oh you did your RPAL course, passed with 100%, know all the safety procedures, and follow all the rules above and beyond what is expected? Perfect....now if you could just go join a gun club, and do all that again, then we'll send you the permission to use your RPAL...when we feel like it".

Christ. As StoneHorse said, ATT's NEED TO GO. it's a pointless procedure/document. What difference is it, what gun I am taking to the range? I have the papers, the license, and am doing everything legally. Pistol, Ar, Bolt rifle, etc. All the same.
 
Trotter said:
Yes, another course. Do it, stay safe, it never hurts to take everything you possible can!! but this one is a minimum mandatory "no-brainer".
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So I guess every time you get into your car to go to Safeway you should take another drivers test, right? "no brainer".
 
Don't confuse things necessarily. Even if ATT's were a condition on your license, so that clubs didn't have to apply for them for you (in Ontario at least), does NOT mean that clubs would not make you take their club level safety course. Unless you are discipline specific (like an IPSC, IDPA, PPC, Cowboy match), it is unlikely a club would let you just walk in, site unseen, pay your dues, and start shooting your handgun. If you are unsafe and send a round over the berm, the whole club is shut down. The main purpose, I think for have ATT's being a condition on your license is to prevent the need for "all the other ATT's" other than the long term on. Like for a gunsmith, or to pickup at a store, or to go to the boarder etc.. An RPAL, and an ATT automatically issued (like in Alberta I believe) does NOT mean you can shoot safely, the club is still going to want to be sure they can trust you not to get them closed down.
 
I'm in ON, and I just did my Club safety test for handguns otherwise known as the LTATT test..that's what many call it...I passed..now I'm waiting for my LTATT which my club exec has told me he has applied for to the CFO..I'm waiting with baited breath...It's been one week...I'll give it another week and then I will call the CFO Wyatt whom I'd wish to not deal with however I will call his office and if I get a negatory response then I guess it'll be calling my MP, MPP, and whomever else I can deal with...Wyatt is the asscap I have to deal with...How bout Y'all...lucky mofos.
 
Tuco Pike said:
Don't confuse things necessarily. Even if ATT's were a condition on your license, so that clubs didn't have to apply for them for you (in Ontario at least), does NOT mean that clubs would not make you take their club level safety course. Unless you are discipline specific (like an IPSC, IDPA, PPC, Cowboy match), it is unlikely a club would let you just walk in, site unseen, pay your dues, and start shooting your handgun. If you are unsafe and send a round over the berm, the whole club is shut down. The main purpose, I think for have ATT's being a condition on your license is to prevent the need for "all the other ATT's" other than the long term on. Like for a gunsmith, or to pickup at a store, or to go to the boarder etc.. An RPAL, and an ATT automatically issued (like in Alberta I believe) does NOT mean you can shoot safely, the club is still going to want to be sure they can trust you not to get them closed down.
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Oh really? Then I guess we have to qualify at the club level for rifles and shotguns too? Not a chance my friend. Where is the discipline specific you mention for the other firearms? Remember now, the safety requirements are the exact same for all firearms, not just handguns. My restricted A.R. requires an A.T.T. to take it to the range but do I have to qualify at the club for that rifle? No, of course not! I swear, some of the people on this site must be a plant for the Coalition for Gun (and mind) Control. I find people like you are very narrow minded. But then again, robots are so easy to control. Just what the CFO's and the anti-gun want.
 
Tuco Pike said:
The ATT course IS a club level safety course. It is an additional way for the club to raise some funds & to ensure that each member knows the rules and policies of their particular club.
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The club-level ATT course is advertised and offered as a "no profit" training by the clubs....:yingyang:...are you saying the clubs are actually utilizing it as moneymaking venture ?.....:confused:
 
cyclone said:
The club-level ATT course is advertised and offered as a "no profit" training by the clubs....:yingyang:...are you saying the clubs are actually utilizing it as moneymaking venture ?.....:confused:
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From what I have seen from the clubs in the areas around the GTA it appears that they all have an administrative fee on top of the membership fee. It only has to be paid the first year and can range from $100 - $350 depending on the club. Included in that fee is your club level safety course. Basically they are finding new ways to get more from all of us.

Their instructors (ROs) don't seem to serious about the course content. More of a chance for them to tell you their stories and experiences. As for this being an insurance requirement as stated earlier in the thread...The PAL or RPAL course more than meets the insurance providers guidelines as that course is registered. the club level one has no set guidelines and no reporting is made to anyone outside of the club from what I know. Being that I am in the insurance business I can safely say that this course is not recognized by the insurance board.

Just a money grab imo.
 
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