any buy ammo get a free sks type deals?

this is what I get when I go to marstar.com

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ya but its Chinese sks aren't the Russians much better?


You're a bit misinformed. The Chinese ones are new/unissued built with most likely the same factory machines as the Russians used. The Soviet rifles are used and refurbed. The Russians are prettier and make nicer show pieces but both make good shooters. The Chinese are chromed barrels as are the last half of the production years of Russian SKS. Chinese have spike bayonet, Russians have blade bayonet. Russians are often available in solid birch or laminate stocks. Unless you want a collectors item, both rifles are available from 200-300 bucks. The rifle/ammo combo is a good deal if you are not too far away where the shipping costs kill the deal.
 
ya but its Chinese sks aren't the Russians much better?

Having had an OLD chinese one and a recent russian I can say with confidence that my russian is about 10000x nicer than the chinese and shoots that much better to.

Can't speak on the new import of chinese ones.

Got a package from Tradex and couldn't be happier.
 
You're a bit misinformed. The Chinese ones are new/unissued built with most likely the same factory machines as the Russians used. The Soviet rifles are used and refurbed. The Russians are prettier and make nicer show pieces but both make good shooters. The Chinese are chromed barrels as are the last half of the production years of Russian SKS. Chinese have spike bayonet, Russians have blade bayonet. Russians are often available in solid birch or laminate stocks. Unless you want a collectors item, both rifles are available from 200-300 bucks. The rifle/ammo combo is a good deal if you are not too far away where the shipping costs kill the deal.

I'm sure that Russia and China both produced SKSs with spike and blade style bayonets. At the very least, early Chinese models had blade bayos and went to spike bayos in their later production.
 
The nice thing with a Russian SKS is that they are ALL military surplus, made to military grade. Not so with the Chinese SKSs. The Chinese SKS are a mix of milsurp rifles, rifles produced strictly for the commercial market, and some that are a hybrid (military parts reconfigured for the commercial market).

As for the Russian one's being refurbed... who cares? I recently bought both a Russian refurb, and Russian non-refurbed, and I can tell you that although the non-refurbs are fantastic collectible pieces, at the point in time where you actually buy an SKS, the non-refurbs sometimes don't look as great as the ones that have been through refurb, simply because all things deteriorate through time, even just in storage.

Some other things to consider:

- Russian SKSs are all type 45, built (mostly) between 1949-55/56. The first prototypes were built in 1945, thus the type 45.
- Chiniese SKS come in a greater variety of types, starting from type 56 (Russians turned over production to Chinese in 1956). So better variety with the Chinese SKSs.
- Most of the SKS in the world are Chinese. Might be a factor in collectible value in the future, with less produced versions gaining (or maintaining) value better.
 
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I'm sure that Russia and China both produced SKSs with spike and blade style bayonets. At the very least, early Chinese models had blade bayos and went to spike bayos in their later production.

The Russians used a spiked bayo on the 1949 SKSs. Of course, one could come on a later Russian SKS, if it was paired with one in refurb.
 
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