Ruger 25 rnd Mags
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jester3006
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- Edmonton, AB
The BX-25 mags are prohibited in Canada since they where advertised to fit in the Charger pistol as well. Therefore they must be pinned to 10 rounds if you can get one.
Ruger markets them as being designed for use in both the 10/22 and Charger (their 10/22 "handgun") models.
https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/BX-25.pdf
Since there is no exemption for rimfire handgun magazines, all handgun mags including rimfire ones must be limited to 10 rounds.
http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/sor-98-462/latest/sor-98-462.html (the mag cap regulations are near the bottom of this link)
The RCMP has stated that any magazines that are "dual purpose" (designed for handguns and rifles) are limited by the most restrictive of the two in that particular situation.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
Therefore, the more restrictive regulation (10 round handgun mag limit) trumps the limitless capacity this magazine would be allowed if it were advertised only for the 10/22 rifle.
As a side note, the Butler Creek mags are good to go without being blocked to 10 rounds because they only mention the 10/22 and not the Charger on their website.
http://www.butlercreek.com/products/magazine_banana.html
https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/BX-25.pdf
Since there is no exemption for rimfire handgun magazines, all handgun mags including rimfire ones must be limited to 10 rounds.
http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/sor-98-462/latest/sor-98-462.html (the mag cap regulations are near the bottom of this link)
The RCMP has stated that any magazines that are "dual purpose" (designed for handguns and rifles) are limited by the most restrictive of the two in that particular situation.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
Therefore, the more restrictive regulation (10 round handgun mag limit) trumps the limitless capacity this magazine would be allowed if it were advertised only for the 10/22 rifle.
As a side note, the Butler Creek mags are good to go without being blocked to 10 rounds because they only mention the 10/22 and not the Charger on their website.
http://www.butlercreek.com/products/magazine_banana.html
If I am correct ,You might want to read up a little on "dual Purpose" as what you are saying is not the case with all magazines as The LAR Pistol magazine is 10 rounds and may be used in an AR15. Magazines are limited by what they are Made for not what they are used in
Yes, I know what you are saying. The difference is that the LAR-15 mags are marketed as designed only for the LAR-15, so they are considered a handgun mag, not "dual purpose", even though they will work in any firearm that takes AR-15 mags. The fact that Ruger mentions both the 10/22 and Charger in their marketing makes the BX-25 "dual purpose" in the eyes of the RCMP. There is a difference between the two situations.
They view it as being designed for both, but subject to the handgun mag limit, according to their notice.
Weird, found a retailer that sells them? Canadian retailer. Wonder if you can actually order it.
http://www.grouseriver.com/Ruger_BX_25_Magazine_p/hun-001651.htm
http://www.grouseriver.com/Ruger_BX_25_Magazine_p/hun-001651.htm
1 month thread revival but..... I have had mixed luck with a bunch of different 25 round mags, so I decided to send ruger an email about their BX-25 mags.
Their reply:
We do not believe that merely changing the packaging to omit that the BX-25 is compatible with the Charger Pistol will resolve the issue; if all we had to do was change the packaging, we would have done it by now. Our Legal Dept is still addressing this issue. They have reviewed the regulations very carefully, researched the case law, and have been working with our Canadian distributors to understand how we might be able to make the BX-25 magazines available available to our customers there. We understand your frustration and remain modestly hopeful that we may eventually be able to make the BX-25 magazines available to 10/22 fans in Canada.
Not really the most optimistic reply, but I am impressed that Ruger emailed me back within 24 hours.
Their reply:
We do not believe that merely changing the packaging to omit that the BX-25 is compatible with the Charger Pistol will resolve the issue; if all we had to do was change the packaging, we would have done it by now. Our Legal Dept is still addressing this issue. They have reviewed the regulations very carefully, researched the case law, and have been working with our Canadian distributors to understand how we might be able to make the BX-25 magazines available available to our customers there. We understand your frustration and remain modestly hopeful that we may eventually be able to make the BX-25 magazines available to 10/22 fans in Canada.
Not really the most optimistic reply, but I am impressed that Ruger emailed me back within 24 hours.
That's marketing speak for "ain't going to happen" if I've ever heard it!
so if you had one and it wasn't in the package how many enforcement guys are going to be able to tell the difference between it and say a Butler Creek mag other than by the name on the mag itself , Or even know that there is an issue with it ? Not condoning breaking any law but if there were some and an individual ( typical hunter , plinker who don't follow the laws like on here } bought one how would anyone know ?
Hell, they won't even ship the BX-1 standard 10 round mag to Canada.
I got 2 more from Prophet River to go with the trimag from Brownells.
The Butler Creek BX-25 is reasonably available in Canadian retail stores. These have steel lips which are reputedly more durable than Ruger's own production.
