gi 1911s?

Dr.K said:
What about a Norinco? Forged frames and loose tolerances, just like the originals.
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/\Yeah, thanks Dr K for saying it.

Norkies are loose where they can be loose, and tight where they have to be tight. They are fit just properly tight enough to function reliably with round nose hardball ammo and to deliver at least decent accuracy. Exactly like the originals, as Dr.K said.

Since most current manufacturers even Remington are just clone makers anyway, might as well buy a cheap Norkie in parkerized finish, or go for the real thing and look for a parkerized Colt WWII new replica...if Colt even makes this model now.

BTW, thanks Deadman for clarifying the Remington firearms vs typewriter manufacturer confusion.:D
 
Haha, I guess its officially another derailed thread! Remington sold the company that later became Remington Rand (see the history you linked) well before 1911s were first made. They did make them in the great war though, so technically they can claim some heritage. I wasn't disputing that, just that their current pistol isn't an accurate representation of their history (or of GI style pistols in general).

Sorry, too much idle time at work today. My intention wasn't to come across as an interwebz know it all.
 
Might be a dumb thought, and only loosely connected to the OP, but if all current manufactured pistols were reviewed for military acceptance (based on standards of the time), I wonder how many would pass or fail?
 
deadman said:
Sorry, too much idle time at work today. My intention wasn't to come across as an interwebz know it all.
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Hey Bro, you never did.

I won't be working very hard for the next few days/weeks myself, until they can schedule a laser lithotripsy to blast my darned kidney stone. But I am going to the range later this afternoon for my mental therapy.:D
 
Cheap - Norinco GI. Bare bones no frills gun, likely with machine marks and some grittiness and sharp edges, but apparently very reliable and the steel is great.

Intermediate - Springfield Mil Spec. Only gripe about these guns is the parkerizing is not the best. Then again the only parked gun I have is my 870 Express. Seems like it would show wear marks quickly - I would love a Mil Spec stainless and almost bought one.

HighER - Colt. I have a Series 70 Reproduction GI. Does not have the flared/lowered ejection port. No firing pin safety, or rail, or any of that. Beautiful rollmarks, bluing, fit and finish is top notch. I love this gun.


All of the other guns I looked at had some sort of downside to them when I was looking at a "GI" style 1911. The Norinco was very bare bones, and I try not to support China as much as possible (not trying to debate you if you feel differently, just my own opinion).
The Springfield's parkerizing felt cheap and not very durable so I'd have to re-do it/really monitor it.

The downside of the Colt is price and availability. It's an expensive gun but I believe it to be worth it. If you can't find one, import one. :)
 
mr00jimbo said:
Cheap - Norinco GI. Bare bones no frills gun, likely with machine marks and some grittiness and sharp edges, but apparently very reliable and the steel is great.

Intermediate - Springfield Mil Spec. Only gripe about these guns is the parkerizing is not the best. Then again the only parked gun I have is my 870 Express. Seems like it would show wear marks quickly - I would love a Mil Spec stainless and almost bought one.

HighER - Colt. I have a Series 70 Reproduction GI. Does not have the flared/lowered ejection port. No firing pin safety, or rail, or any of that. Beautiful rollmarks, bluing, fit and finish is top notch. I love this gun.


All of the other guns I looked at had some sort of downside to them when I was looking at a "GI" style 1911. The Norinco was very bare bones, and I try not to support China as much as possible (not trying to debate you if you feel differently, just my own opinion).
The Springfield's parkerizing felt cheap and not very durable so I'd have to re-do it/really monitor it.

The downside of the Colt is price and availability. It's an expensive gun but I believe it to be worth it. If you can't find one, import one. :)
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Shes a beauty, but for my first 1911 I don't think I wanna jump right into top class stuff. But I don't want the bottom of the barrel either. I think I will go with that Sam 1911. From what I've read it seems like a good gun, and you can't complain to much about a $440 dollar 1911 :D.
I will go with the norinco ammo though , heard its dirty stuff but I don't mind. I only shoot surplus 7.62x39 and 7.62x54r, that norinco stuff can't be any worse :p.
 
I've had an RIA 1911 GI for a year now and love it. It is, however, not a perfect clone.

The front sight is slightly thicker and the rear notch slightly wider than my buddy's 1943 Ithaca. The ejection port is lowered and flared a touch and the mag well has a slight bevel. It also has a slightly larger safety than GO.
 
Its too bad the Springfields are in such short supply here, they are a good pistol. Little more expensive than the SAM, RIA, etc, but they get lumped into the same category. I have others, but the Springfields will never be sold.

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I had another question for all you people with more knowledge than I.
Right now I'm just waiting for my rpal to be processed and sent back. Once that happens I will be ordering that Sam 1911 right away. What kind of wait time will I have? I liver just outside Toronto and Im ordering from wolverine (obviously). So how long do pistols take to come in the mail?

And one last thing, I know I have to join a range to get an ATT, how long a wait am I looking for that? I was thinking either target sports Canada or silverdale gun club. At silverdale I can shoot all my firearms with whatever ammo I like, that's why I only go there right now but for a pistol I would like an indoor range with movable targets and such.
 
Once you order, transfers in Ontario usually take around a week (give or take) and Canada Post quotes 3-5 bussiness days. The SAM pistols are moving fast and please remember you can order and pay for your firearm before your PAL comes through. We just hold until the transfer can be completed.
Regards
Guy (Wolverine)
 
AR-GUY said:
Once you order, transfers in Ontario usually take around a week (give or take) and Canada Post quotes 3-5 bussiness days. The SAM pistols are moving fast and please remember you can order and pay for your firearm before your PAL comes through. We just hold until the transfer can be completed.
Regards
Guy (Wolverine)
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If I buy one now you guys will hold onto it until I get my rpal back,then I just give you a call and give you the rpal number and then the ball starts rolling on over to me? Is that right?
 
AR-GUY said:
Than just about sums it up. It helps when something is in short supply.
Regards
Guy
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One last thing Guy. I was Gunna get some extra clips for the pistol and a holster you guys have, if I put them all on one bill, could the clips and holster be shipped right away and the pistol later on one shipping charge?
 
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