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How hard is it to get the restricted Pal? is there a waiting list or is it basically the same as getting the non-restricted pal? Thanks for your replies.

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If you meet the following requirements:
- You're not completely retarded (i.e. you can pass the CRFSC exam)
- You have a clean criminal record
- You know 2 people who will act as references for you

then it's relatively easy to get the restricted endorsement on your PAL. There's no "waiting list" outside of the time it takes the CFC to process your application (and your provincial CFO to do their bits, which varies from province to province).

It's basically the same as getting the non-restricted except it's an extra exam (and course if you want to take it) and the fact that the CFC *will* call your references (for non-res they may or may not, but for res they're pretty much guaranteed to).
 
It's basically the same system and the same procedure. Different manual of course and different test, but otherwise not much different. If you're going to challenge the test, get a friend with some handguns to go through the practical stuff with you first.
 
mralberta said:
:stirthepot2: Meh,

If the RCMP have absolutley nothing better to do then come knock on my door because of my RPAL, :rockOn:

They can go pound sand and come back with a search warrant, while I lawyer up!

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FYI They don't need a warrant if you have 10 or more firearms. *edit: ....as far as I know.
 
I moved to Canada in 2006. I got the paperwork ahead of time from CFC and the week I came up to look for a house, I took the tests for the RPAL on challenge. The license was in the mail the week I actually moved.
 
If your in Regina you want to talk to this guy:

J. Patrick Connolley - 790-9566

Super nice guy, does it out of his home, makes it extremely simple for you. Tell him Layne sent you. Everyone Ive put through his course has had nothing but good things to say about the man.
 
assuming they ask you the same questions they asked my references, make sure to tell them you want the restricted for target practice, not self defense.
 
Yup easy to get (well I'm waiting on mine so grain of salt)
Only thing I think was different with my phone interview was "You applied to Non-restricted and restricted, why do you need the restricted?"

I'd suggest you read the book before challenging the test, or take the course. I had never shot a handgun before I challenged the restricted test and scored 96% between the written & practical

Tips: Safe direction at all times, finger off the trigger, ATT for transport.
 
evan the cdn said:
FYI They don't need a warrant if you have 10 or more firearms. *edit: ....as far as I know.
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10 or more restricteds, possibly, I'd have to look it up but as far as I know you must hold a collectors license for them to be able to SCHEDULE a visit to see your "collection". This must also be done with your approval and a time that works for you.

Not to be rude to the police on this form or attempt to sound like a "badass" but if they show up without a warrant, kindly tell them to have a nice day and close the door. If for some magical reason they do have one or say they're getting one, you can challenge it because there's no probable cause for search.

Unless you've been a bad boy :rey2
 
Funny story about one of my references. I still can't believe he said some of the stuff he did.

CFO - "Would (my name) ever use a firearm to harm another person?"

Reference - "Well I should hope so, he is in the Army and it is kind of a requirement to defend your self when your getting shot at."

CFO - Taken aback " No, I meant while at home in civilian life would (my name) ever use a firearm to harm another person?"

Reference - "Well I guess that all depends on the circumstances. If someone breaks into my house with a gun, and my wife and kids are home, I'm going to fight fire with fire. But that's just me."

CFO - "Ummm, uhhh, in the years you have known (my name), has he ever been irresponsible with a firearm?"

Reference - "No"

And the phone interview went on from there.
In the end I did get approved for my RPAL. And a dropped jaw when he told me about that conversation with the CFO.
 
Inspection:

INSPECTION
Marginal note Definition of “inspector”

101. In sections 102 to 105, “inspector” means a firearms officer and includes, in respect of a province, a member of a class of individuals designated by the provincial minister.

Inspection

102. (1) Subject to section 104, for the purpose of ensuring compliance with this Act and the regulations, an inspector may at any reasonable time enter and inspect any place where the inspector believes on reasonable grounds a business is being carried on or there is a record of a business, any place in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a gun collection or a record in relation to a gun collection or any place in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a prohibited firearm or there are more than 10 firearms and may

(a) open any container that the inspector believes on reasonable grounds contains a firearm or other thing in respect of which this Act or the regulations apply;
(b) examine any firearm and examine any other thing that the inspector finds and take samples of it;
(c) conduct any tests or analyses or take any measurements; and
(d) require any person to produce for examination or copying any records, books of account or other documents that the inspector believes on reasonable grounds contain information that is relevant to the enforcement of this Act or the regulations.

Operation of data processing systems and copying equipment

(2) In carrying out an inspection of a place under subsection (1), an inspector may
(a) use or cause to be used any data processing system at the place to examine any data contained in or available to the system;
(b) reproduce any record or cause it to be reproduced from the data in the form of a print-out or other intelligible output and remove the print-out or other output for examination or copying; and
(c) use or cause to be used any copying equipment at the place to make copies of any record, book of account or other document.

Use of force

(3) In carrying out an inspection of a place under subsection (1), an inspector may not use force.
Marginal note:Receipt for things taken

(4) An inspector who takes any thing while carrying out an inspection of a place under subsection (1) must give to the owner or occupant of the place at the time that the thing is taken a receipt for the thing that describes the thing with reasonable precision, including, in the case of a firearm, the serial number if available of the firearm.

Definition of “business”

(5) For greater certainty, in this section, “business” has the meaning assigned by subsection 2(1).

Duty to assist inspectors

103. The owner or person in charge of a place that is inspected by an inspector under section 102 and every person found in the place shall

(a) give the inspector all reasonable assistance to enable him or her to carry out the inspection and exercise any power conferred by section 102; and
(b) provide the inspector with any information relevant to the enforcement of this Act or the regulations that he or she may reasonably require.

Inspection of dwelling-house

104. (1) An inspector may not enter a dwelling-house under section 102 except
(a) on reasonable notice to the owner or occupant, except where a business is being carried on in the dwelling-house; and
(b) with the consent of the occupant or under a warrant.

Authority to issue warrant

(2) A justice who on ex parte application is satisfied by information on oath
(a) that the conditions for entry described in section 102 exist in relation to a dwelling-house,
(b) that entry to the dwelling-house is necessary for any purpose relating to the enforcement of this Act or the regulations, and
(c) that entry to the dwelling-house has been refused or that there are reasonable grounds for believing that entry will be refused

may issue a warrant authorizing the inspector named in it to enter that dwelling-house subject to any conditions that may be specified in the warrant.

Areas that may be inspected

(3) For greater certainty, an inspector who is carrying out an inspection of a dwelling-house may enter and inspect only
(a) that part of a room of the dwelling-house in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is a firearm, prohibited weapon, restricted weapon, prohibited device, prohibited ammunition, a record in relation to a gun collection or all or part of a device or other thing required by a regulation made under paragraph 117(h) respecting the storage of firearms and restricted weapons; and
(b) in addition, in the case of a dwelling-house where the inspector believes on reasonable grounds a business is being carried on, that part of a room in which the inspector believes on reasonable grounds there is ammunition or a record of the business.
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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/page-29.html#docCont

Does anyone eve look anything up any more or just randomly parrot stuff they hear?

Shawn
 
shawn said:
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Does anyone eve look anything up any more or just randomly parrot stuff they hear?

Shawn
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Was that directed at me? Yes, I did look it up ...about three years ago. ...but thanks for saving the day. You're positive attitude really strengthens the community.
 
evan the cdn said:
Was that directed at me? Yes, I did look it up ...about three years ago. ...but thanks for saving the day. You're positive attitude really strengthens the community.
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No it wasn't direct at you specifically.

But since you want to get snarky your inability to Google the firearms act and post the correct information is not the saving grace of the community either. Which by the way took all of 2 min.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
No it wasn't direct at you specifically.

But since you want to get snarky your inability to Google the firearms act and post the correct information is not the saving grace of the community either. Which by the way took all of 2 min.

Shawn
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Are you the Shawn from Saskatoon Gunworks?
 
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