The budget rifle lie and many others

Mikeness

Mikeness

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After many years in the shooting sport Ive always wanted a rifle with excellent precision but low cost.
Well after trying multiple savage builds and barrels of many kind I realized it was almost not possible! (under 600-800 bucks any way)

I wanted

1. accuracy and not just three shots but at least 5 shots
2. consistency
3. multi purpose use hunting and sport shooting
4. and a heavy barrel and it has to be short (as i hunt in heavy brush)
5.CHEAP

well i built a savage and till i was done i had a 1000 bucks in the rifle and still had a rifle i wasn't happy with!!!do not be fooled a build costs money and time.

until you have every thing the way you want it you will always be out 800 to 1000 bucks at least! and this is bottom dollar most consider 5000 or more still to be cheap.


Fact is till you buy
1. the rifle
2. the barrel you want
3. trigger
4. stock
5. bedding
6. scope
7. mounts

YOU ARE OUT 1000 bucks ! and still have mediocre equipment
Do not let any one tell you he built a tack driver for under 500 bucks!Buy some thing half decent and work with it find out what you really need and want.
or the next big lie the barrel break in lie !! Ill wright about this another time
 
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so your saying you spent 1000 dollars and had a rifle your not happy with, and bought a sps tactical for 650 did some work and yyou are happy with it?

i hope im reading that right... cuz either way, for "some" of us that are seriously into shooting, chances are a 2000+ build is still concidered to be a "budget build" start getting into match grad barrels, high end actions and stocks, triggers etc, add gun smthing, you can easily be into a rifle for almosy 5g and still not have glass ontop of it.

it truly is the shooter that makes equiptment great but you also get what you pay for
 
well i built a savage and till i was done i had a 1000 bucks in the rifle and still had a rifle i wasn't happy with!!!do not be fooled a build costs money and time.
until you have every thing the way you want it you will always be out 800 to 1000 bucks at least!
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LoL
 
Mikeness said:
5.CHEAP
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I think I figured out your problem right there.

There is a HUUUUGE difference between CHEAP and INEXPENSIVE.

If you take the CHEAP road you will always spend more in the long run.

CHEAP glass
CHEAP barrels
CHEAP triggers
etc...

In the precision game I would put a value of $1500 (before glass) as an "inexpensive" rifle and it only goes up from there.

Hell, I have seen factory barreled actions in stocks that cost more then my trued action with match barrel in a factory stock.......guess which one shot better? ;)
 
Lol my sako build keeps racking up as well

sako A7 rifle: $1100 (but the $ came from playing poker so i guess others paid for it. Lol)
Lilja barrel, chambering and finishing ~$600
Vortex glass : $1100
Possibly Topped off with a McMillan: ~$500?????
But staring at your own creation that you pieced together? : Priceless
It all just adds up too fast
 
For my entry level rig I'm at..... lets see:

Remington SPS Tac 223: $699 (P&D)
Rings $60 (P&D)
Bases $30? (P&D)
Bushnell 6-24x50 $500 (EE)
Jewell Trigger $275 (Mystic)
Choate Tac Stock $300 (Mystic)

So whats that? $1864, plus a little tax, plus a little shipping.... Thats about as cheap as I can put mine together and thats just off the shelf entry level stuff.

But damn to I love it....

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100 Yards, H335, 52g Sierra, windy.
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Sorry but for 2k I have to post pictures everywhere I go. (this is before the stock and trigger)
 
Hotwheels81 said:
I'm about $3000 with sightron glass into a $350 111 FCXP at the moment... It's a "cheap build" :D
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Can you give us details. Not necessarily cost break down, but parts details.

On days when you don't shoot good. You can always say to the other guys at the range, "Awe, its just a Savage package gun".
 
I don't if I've heard it before but now I know why they had made the saying....

Dogleg said:
There was an old raceing saying to the effect that there was never enough money to do it right, but always enough to do it over.

I may have proven that one myself a few times.
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How tight do you really want your groups? The cost for 1/4 moa tighter can be a lot. It's just chasing the dragon and some people always want more.
It's a game I got out of long ago because of the cost, but I certainly envy those that can afford to keep going with it. :) I am happy if I can do 1moa consistently with a budget setup, as I am trying to hone my skills as much as possible with the gear I have, but honestly I really do not get out shooting enough to justify it and any setup right now will probably out shoot me anyway.
 
Once upon a time spending $1000.00 for a bare rifle was hard to part with, now it's the starting point if you want to add a barrel.
 
That is exactly my point! it makes you happy
Ryan500 said:
For my entry level rig I'm at..... lets see:

Remington SPS Tac 223: $699 (P&D)
Rings $60 (P&D)
Bases $30? (P&D)
Bushnell 6-24x50 $500 (EE)
Jewell Trigger $275 (Mystic)
Choate Tac Stock $300 (Mystic)

So whats that? $1864, plus a little tax, plus a little shipping.... Thats about as cheap as I can put mine together and thats just off the shelf entry level stuff.

But damn to I love it....

DSCF1490.jpg

DSCF1489.jpg

DSCF1487.jpg

100 Yards, H335, 52g Sierra, windy.
87b143a2.jpg


Sorry but for 2k I have to post pictures everywhere I go. (this is before the stock and trigger)
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for some even 10 000 is cheap but you know were i was getting at.Im saying spend you're money right and of course the shooter makes the equipment but if you save on optics you can be all th shooter you want!

ultimate_monkey said:
so your saying you spent 1000 dollars and had a rifle your not happy with, and bought a sps tactical for 650 did some work and yyou are happy with it?

i hope im reading that right... cuz either way, for "some" of us that are seriously into shooting, chances are a 2000+ build is still concidered to be a "budget build" start getting into match grad barrels, high end actions and stocks, triggers etc, add gun smthing, you can easily be into a rifle for almosy 5g and still not have glass ontop of it.

it truly is the shooter that makes equiptment great but you also get what you pay for
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warrenb said:
Can you give us details. Not necessarily cost break down, but parts details.

On days when you don't shoot good. You can always say to the other guys at the range, "Awe, its just a Savage package gun".
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About all that's left of the original rifle is the action and a couple screws so that excuse won't fly, I will start a thread on it in a few weeks.
 
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