Who said it couldn't be accurate?

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Recently, there was a thread concerning the accuracy or lack thereof with the 300 Blackout cartridge http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=753619 .

Anyone who has a rifle chambered for the Blackout will readily admit (or at least should) that the cartridge is anything but benchrest accurate nor was it ever intended to be. Having said that, the Blackout has been a bit of a challenge to get super tight groups with. However, it is at least possible to do so.

Here are some results of today's shooting activities. For today's range session, I switched out my Bushnell 3200 10x scope for a B&L 4000 6x-24x40mm scope that I frequently use for load development purposes.

Mounted on a 20 MOA base, the B&L 4000 bottoms completely out in elevation adjustment and as a result, I am only able to come within approximately 5" of the point of aim @ 100 yards.

My hope was that the higher magnification and significantly clearer optics would allow for better accuracy. I think it was positive step in the right direction.

I tried a slight variation of 168gr. A-MAX load with H110 that has proven reasonably accurate in previouse range sessions. However, I substituted a Federal 205 primer for the Winchester brand I was previously using and I varied the charge weight +/- 0.02 from my baseline 14.5gr. load.

So, here is the outcome of today's session:

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I was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. The first group in the first pic had me a little concerned. I simply couldn't believe that I'd possibly put (4) consecutive rounds in one hole. I thought maybe some rounds had actually went off paper! When I shot the 5th round and pulled it a little high, I knew there was no mistake.

By the third group was fired, there was a dead calm wind and the mirage was problematic at 24x power on the scope. I pooched the 3rd. group and decided to wait until a slight breeze would pick up to reduce the amount of mirage I was experiencing.

I continued shooting after a short time and out of the next (3) consecutive groups I managed to pull one round a bit in the first of three that wrecked an otheriwse decent group.

Now that I've got a decent level of accuracy I plan on taking the chronograph out for my next range session to see where the ES & SD numbers come in at. From the Hornady loading manual I have, I believe the load to be somewhere close to 1,600 fps.

So, is the 300 Blackout capable of acceptable accuracy? Well, based on what I've seen with this load I'd have to say yes. Having said that, one accurate load is simply not enough to rely upon. I look forward to trying a number of other bullets I have on hand to see how it all plays out. An accurate "plinker" load with the Hornady 150gr. FMJ-BT bullet and a hunting load with the Nosler 125gr. Ballistic Tip are next on my list for supersonic loads. I plan on doing some subsonics after that.

Suputin has been doing a fair amount of work on subsonics if I recall correctly. I look forward to hearing the results of his work to see if they're able to produce satisfactory results in my rifle.
 
My Northshore Barrels 300 Blackout was finished last week. I just got to the range yesterday. I am using a cheap Bushnell scope. The load is 110 hornaday FMJ round nose over 19.2 gr of H110. I think for the guns first time to the range and my first loads of 300 BO it did pretty well. I haven't tried loading heavy bullets yet.

This is a four round group. After I got the scope POA to be the POI, I had only 4 rounds of the 19 I started with left. Yes I had a bad day sighting in my guns. But the end result was satisfying.

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nice shooting...I read that savage arms cancelled there testing into chambering a rifle in 300 blackout because they couldn't get it to meet their accuracy standards. Maybe they should contact 2bad4u2.
 
2bad,
those look like great honest groups. I think the first 2 got you so surprised your shooting may have effected the third group.

Cool Stuff!
 
2bad,
those look like great honest groups. I think the first 2 got you so surprised your shooting may have effected the third group.

Cool Stuff!

Man, I never thought of that! Lol. Anything is possible, I guess. I recall the mirage being very heavy during that third group. When the breeze picked up just a little the mirage was less pronounced.

tbrwlf: Good looking rifle. Shilen barrel on your's? How about listing your rifle's specs? I'm jealous as Hell about your initial (4) round group. Are those 110gr. .30 Carbine bullets? I've got thousands of those and I can't get them to group at all. I had great promise for those as an inexpensive plinking round.
 
Need Sean to give you the barrel twist. He invested 3 hours in making the barrel and fitting it. As usual he did a great job.

It is a Remington 700 SPS with a Shilen Custom Select barrel. The barrel is 14 inches and was cut from the thick end of the blank. It was not reduced at all so it 1 1/8 at the muzzle. Very front heavy. The stock is an HS Precision knockoff that Sean had lying around.

The bullets are Hornady 30 Cal 110 Gr FMJ.

I was very please with my last set of the day. Until then things just were not making me happy.

I can't wait to get some 110 Vmax and try them. Then I am going to slowly work my way up the weight to 220. It would be nice to have a good load for each weight.

If anyone wants a nice Remington custom bull barrel and original SPS stock, PM me with an offer.
 
Looks like some decent accuracy out of those rifles. Was this round designed to be suppressed?
 
Looks like some decent accuracy out of those rifles. Was this round designed to be suppressed?

The Blackout was designed with both subsonic and supersonic applications in mind, with greater emphasis on supersonic loads. The 1:8" twist 16" SAAMI spec barrel was a compromise for optimal performance of subs & supers.

As far as noise/blast is concerned, the 16" barrel length is far less noisey tcan my 11.5" barrelled Weatherby Vanguard. However, the Weatherby handles far better due to it being so compact.
 
My Northshore Barrels 300 Blackout was finished last week. I just got to the range yesterday. I am using a cheap Bushnell scope. The load is 110 hornaday FMJ round nose over 19.2 gr of H110. I think for the guns first time to the range and my first loads of 300 BO it did pretty well. I haven't tried loading heavy bullets yet.

This is a four round group. After I got the scope POA to be the POI, I had only 4 rounds of the 19 I started with left. Yes I had a bad day sighting in my guns. But the end result was satisfying.

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That is ###y. I am about to start my build and was going to taper my barrel, but I might leave it heavy since it will be short anyway.

Going to try some subs for accuracy. Finally got them running smooth in the AR.
 
Looks like some decent accuracy out of those rifles. Was this round designed to be suppressed?

It was originally designed as a dual purpose round for the AR. I'm not sure if JD Jones was specifically looking for something that would suppress well but due to the small amount of propellant required for subsonics, it does suppress fairly well depending on barrel length and suppressor length. When you get into short barrels and short cans, it is a bit more difficult to suppress.
 
First I heard of this round. What's the benefit of it?



And nice shooting !

Here's some good information on the round and ballistics comparissons to other cartridges. The focus in this document is based on the Blackout's use in AR's but much of it applies to bolt guns as well.

h ttp://www.300aacblackout.com/resources/300-BLK.pdf
 
I played with a 300 Whisper (same cartridge for all practical purposes) in a Remington 700 a few years ago with a medium weight no name barrel on it. With loads it liked it would hold 5/8 to 3/4 at 100 without too much difficulty. I am now playing with an AAC complete 16 inch upper on my AR and with Remington UMC cheapo factory shells it is giving me some 5 shot 100 yd groups under an inch! I haven't even tried playing with loading for it yet. Can't tell me it is not capable of good accuracy.
 
Local dealer. Got him to call his distributor, found out that they had 10 cases on order and spoke for it all! Running about 18 bucks a box, steep compared to the US suggested ($12/ box), but not too bad for up here. Shoot me a PM if you really want some.
 
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