NEA barrel Epic Fail

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So I took my NEA-22 out shooting Saturday with a buddy. The first test fire with the 9" NEA barrel went great but Saturday went to hell. After a little more than 500 rds and not being able to shoot a decent group with Blazer, my buddy was shooting when a round had a case failure. The case stuck in the chamber due to excessive powder fouling, the rim blew off and blew the extractor and plunger across the hood of my truck. After looking at the target I noticed most of the bullet holes were key holed. I used a small flashlight to try and get a look down the bore but couldnt make out any rifling, after getting home and using a proper bore light I found it was leaded like a son of a #####. Worst Ive ever seen, factory ruger 18.5" barrels arent anywhere near this bad after thousands of rounds. Anyways I soaked it in wipeout over night and tried to run a bore brush thru it....now the f**king bore brush is stuck in the bore. I am not happy... Does anyone know of a gun cleaning product or wicked California-banned home brew that will remove the lead without patching/brushing?
 
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The ONLY thing that will remove lead is mercury. (there are a few others that will react with lead, but very slowly, and will likely dissolve your barrel before the lead).

Think about it, lead acid batteries, lead isn't affected by acids or other chemicals.

You can use an electrolytic reaction, fill the barrel with a conductive mix (electrolyte), put an anode into the barrel, and apply a small current.

Or you could just scrub it out with a bronze scrubber.
 
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Blazer will do that to ya!

An old 22 brush with some copper scouring pad wrapped around it is the best way IMHO.

Still takes some elbow grease but comes out in big chunks and strips.

Just make sure it is copper not plated steel. Test with a magnet to be safe. ;)
 
mlehtovaara said:
Blazer will do that to ya!

An old 22 brush with some copper scouring pad wrapped around it is the best way IMHO.

Still takes some elbow grease but comes out in big chunks and strips.

Just make sure it is copper not plated steel. Test with a magnet to be safe. ;)
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There was so much lead fouling that the bore brush got completely jammed in the bore, I can just see the end of it in the chamber! Ive been googling it and it seems like there are good lead remover products I'll have to try. Maybe stand the barrel up, plug one end and fill it, let it sit and try again? I dunno. This is rediculous given the low round count and the fact I can shoot thousands of rds of blazer thru other barrels with minimal fouling. :bangHead:
 
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There was so much lead fouling that the bore brush got completely jammed in the bore, I can just see the end of it in the chamber! Ive been googling it and it seems like there are good lead remover products I'll have to try. Maybe stand the barrel up, plug one end and fill it, let it sit and try again? I dunno. This is rediculous given the low round count and the fact I can shoot thousands of rds of blazer thru other barrels with minimal fouling. :bangHead:
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The only thing all of those products do is TRY to creep under the lead to TRY and loosen the lead a bit. They do nothing to the lead itself.

If the lead is on as thick as you describe, those products probably won't work. Leave some of those chemicals (alkali based) in the barrel long enough and you could also corrode the steel. (very strong alkali, pH 13+, doesn't corrode steel)

Scrub or electrolysis.
 
supernova said:
So I took my NEA-22 out shooting Saturday with a buddy. The first test fire with the 9" NEA barrel went great but Saturday went to hell. After a little more than 500 rds and not being able to shoot a decent group with Blazer, my buddy was shooting when a round had a case failure. The case stuck in the chamber due to excessive powder fouling, the rim blew off and blew the extractor and plunger across the hood of my truck. After looking at the target I noticed most of the bullet holes were key holed. I used a small flashlight to try and get a look down the bore but couldnt make out any rifling, after getting home and using a proper bore light I found it was leaded like a son of a #####. Worst Ive ever seen, factory ruger 18.5" barrels arent anywhere near this bad after thousands of rounds. Anyways I soaked it in wipeout over night and tried to run a bore brush thru it....now the f**king bore brush is stuck in the bore. I am not happy... Does anyone know of a gun cleaning product or wicked California-banned home brew that will remove the lead without patching/brushing?
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Here's a little something for you...plug one end of the barrel and fill with a solution of 50% vinegar and 50% hydrogen peroxide...you can thank me later...;) wait about 15-20 min then dump....then take a look at your barrel...
 
SandRoad said:
The only thing all of those products do is TRY to creep under the lead to TRY and loosen the lead a bit. They do nothing to the lead itself.

If the lead is on as thick as you describe, those products probably won't work. Leave some of those chemicals (alkali based) in the barrel long enough and you could also corrode the steel. (very strong alkali, pH 13+, doesn't corrode steel)

Scrub or electrolysis.
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Ok, then its going back to NEA. That bore brush is in there so f**king tight its rediculous. 500 rds and the barrel is f**ked... what a waste of money...
 
Thats gotta be one hell of a ruff chamber. That is the only reason I can figure that some guns have issues more then others.

I had a similar issue with a Ruger 22/45 after about 1000 rounds.

I ended up just hammering a bore brush through it as described in my first post. Couple times hammering it through and 1 broken cleaning rod later, and it got quite a bit easier.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Thats gotta be one hell of a ruff chamber. That is the only reason I can figure that some guns have issues more then others.

I had a similar issue with a Ruger 22/45 after about 1000 rounds.

I ended up just hammering a bore brush through it as described in my first post. Couple times hammering it through and 1 broken cleaning rod later, and it got quite a bit easier.
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Ive got 3 bent rods from trying just that. It is jammed so god damned tight that it will not move. But I emailed NEA and expect them to do something about it. Its a useless POS to me if it cant make it thru 500 rds without keyholing and having dangerous malfunctions. I appreciate the help though
 
Soak the bore for an hour using bore cleaner or WD 40. Then, using bronze brush, few passes and clean the brush using a mild solvent. Few passes of clean patches. Bore cleaner or WD 40 again soak for few minutes, then a few passes of clean bronze or plastic brush. Make sure brush is cleaned after several passes before repeating the same the same cycle until bore is clean and shiny. If you do not clean the brush after several passes, chances are you will re-deposit the lead that was removed previously. You will end up cleaning all day! :(
 
Squibloads said:
Here's a little something for you...plug one end of the barrel and fill with a solution of 50% vinegar and 50% hydrogen peroxide...you can thank me later...;) wait about 15-20 min then dump....then take a look at your barrel...
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keep that in mind for a later date
 
ambishooter said:
Soak the bore for an hour using bore cleaner or WD 40. Then, using bronze brush, few passes and clean the brush using a mild solvent. Few passes of clean patches. Bore cleaner or WD 40 again soak for few minutes, then a few passes of clean bronze or plastic brush. Make sure brush is cleaned after several passes before repeating the same the same cycle until bore is clean and shiny. If you do not clean the brush after several passes, chances are you will re-deposit the lead that was removed previously. You will end up cleaning all day! :(
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Thats kind of what I did that led to this s**t show. Soaked with wipe-out overnight only to have the bore brush jam solid in the bore on the first pass. Its stuck in there good. I cant brush it. I think it will have to go back to NEA as most lead removers seem to eat the steel if soaked for a long time.
 
Hey Squib, do you think it will work even with the bore brush jammed in there? I know it will flow around it but maybe it will loosen the lead enough to remove the brush? Ill try your suggestion and let you know how it goes
 
Copper scouring pad on a bore brush will do the job most of the time. Vinegar and peroxide works well for really tough cases; just don't let it dry in the bore, keep it off the rest of the gun, and flush thoroughly when finished. Make sure you wear gloves, as the black crud is toxic.
 
Well I soaked it for 15 mins then shook it out, there was a little bit of black discoloration but no lead chunks. The bore brush must have pushed lead up and sealed the bore as its not flowing through. I refilled it and will keep trying, I hope the barrel isnt a write-off, especially with just over 500 rds thru it.
 
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