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Hi,

I am just looking at purchasing my first firearm, and am looking at a 22lr.

I am looking at both semi auto and bolt action.
The semi auto seems to be basically ruger 1022 you cannot go wrong, with the 597 remington close behind.
Are there any other contenders in the same price range?

As for bolt action, detachable magazine fed, I am looking at the marlin XT22
Are they well built?

Other ones include the stevens 300 (by savage) or the savage mark II.
Which is the overall winner for usability, accuracy, dependability and fun?

I want to narrow it down to 1 or 2 of each type as then there are tons of variants of each one after that.

Thanks :)
 
Welcome to the site and the sport of shooting.
You don't mention budget, but I will be the first to say to
find yourself a CZ 452 and don't look back.
There is great pleasure in shooting and best to start out in
the right foot.
Yah, eye know, here it comes.................... :D
 
For a semi auto the 10/22 is the best choice, its inexpensive and reliable with a ton of aftermarket accessories for it.
 
kamlooky said:
Welcome to the site and the sport of shooting.
You don't mention budget, but I will be the first to say to
find yourself a CZ 452 and don't look back.
There is great pleasure in shooting and best to start out in
the right foot.
Yah, eye know, here it comes.................... :D
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What is the difference between the 452 and the 455?
I thought the 455 was replacing it, but both appear to be sold at the same time :eek:
 
The CZ 455 has the barrel swap feature.
Not a great investment in my eyes as I have heard
barrels aren't that cheap and the need to reset zero
on a barrel swap.
The CZ 453 as the set trigger.
Nice feature, but I believe this model is up a bit on price.
There are CZ 452's around, just need to stick the nose to
the ground.
Del Selin may have one or two kicking around and Guns and Games
or P & D.
WTB in the EE may get you one.
I know where there is a great Browning T-Bone for sale....... :D
Uh-oh.......
 
Agree for semi get a 10/22 and bolt a 452. The 452 is so accurate it honestly get boring. Buy a decent scope not a piece of junk and enjoy.

I have a $180.00 plus scope on my 10/22 and it is worth the money.

My son has about the same value scope on his 452 and it is beyond accurate.

I bought him the 452 for his first gun from Selins.
 
Get a cooey 600. It's great :D and can be had usually for less than 150 shipped. IMO its a great starter rifle and a piece of Canadian history. Now tat I ave one I don't think I'll be selling it :p
 
kamlooky said:
The CZ 455 has the barrel swap feature.
Not a great investment in my eyes as I have heard
barrels aren't that cheap and the need to reset zero
on a barrel swap.
The CZ 453 as the set trigger.
Nice feature, but I believe this model is up a bit on price.
There are CZ 452's around, just need to stick the nose to
the ground.
Del Selin may have one or two kicking around and Guns and Games
or P & D.
WTB in the EE may get you one.
I know where there is a great Browning T-Bone for sale....... :D
Uh-oh.......
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I bought myself a 455 American that came with 2 barrels, 22lr and 17hmr. Then just to have it I also ordered a 22magnum barrel. That ended up costing me 235$ incl taxes. Plus they say it has to be first installed by a gunsmith. Another 100 or so $$$. You don't lose zero swapping barrels. Well, sometimes I do but not always (figure that one out). But I absolutely love it tho. I'd Vote Cz 100%. But don't bother with barrels, get it in different calibers if you want them. I'd rather have bought a brand new Cz in 22mag for 450$ than just that 1 barrel for 350.
 
shores said:
Hi,

I am just looking at purchasing my first firearm, and am looking at a 22lr.

I am looking at both semi auto and bolt action.
The semi auto seems to be basically ruger 1022 you cannot go wrong, with the 597 remington close behind.
Are there any other contenders in the same price range?

As for bolt action, detachable magazine fed, I am looking at the marlin XT22
Are they well built?

Other ones include the stevens 300 (by savage) or the savage mark II.
Which is the overall winner for usability, accuracy, dependability and fun?

I want to narrow it down to 1 or 2 of each type as then there are tons of variants of each one after that.

Thanks :)
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The stock Stevens 300 trigger is heavy, but crisp. The Accutrigger on the Savage Mark IIs is might lighter, although mine was also tweaked by the previous owner.

Note that the Accutrigger isn't offered on the Model 64 semi-autos.
 
Another vote for the CZ 452. I have a full stock .22 and the Lux-like model with a beechwood stock. Good rifles with a balance of quality and economy. The sights are very user friendly if you prefer irons, with yardage marked on the adjustable rear. I do wish it was offered with a set trigger like some of the other models, but its definitely useable the way it is. They may not be the "finest" rifles in the world, but I will be proud to hand them over to my children when the time comes. I guess I need to get two more of them so nobody feels left out!

A less expensive option that works well is the Savage. I bought one with a heavy barrel last year for a cheapy project (involving spray paint) because my son was obsessed with "sniping." Great shooter, great value with the accu trigger as far as I'm concerned. Not fancy but a good, solid rifle. Wish I could have had it when I was a kid.
 
Yes the 10-22 is great, i`ve had one since the early 70`s. I have a 452 varmint and a 455 lux. the 455 has a slight edge for grouping. Most any rimfire will be a good buy. Not a Salvage fan but the shoot well.
 
Marlin xt 22lr for bolt cant say enough about it accurate out of the box
Marlin 795 semi great gun again accurate out of the box ,not fond of the stock a bit skinny for me but even then with a new stock still less than a 10/22
In fact you can buy both these rifles for the price of a stock 10/22
Happy shooting
 
What you should buy depends what you want to do with it. A semi is great fun to plink at reactive targets at close to moderate range. The downside is that you will spend a lot more on ammo than you likely would with a bolt action and most of the rounds will be wasted.

If you want to improve your shooting skills a bolt action will do better for you. I'm not familiar with the XT22 but I do currently have a CZ 452, Winchester Wildcat Varmint and a Savage Mk II BV. The CZ is great but the Savage shoots pretty much as well for a fair bit less cost. My last 5 shot 100 m group with my Savage three days ago measured .870".

The Savage Mk II FV and the Stevens rifles leave me cold. The drop at the comb on the FV is too much for a scoped rifle and the Stevens rifles are clearly cheapened.
 
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762shooter said:
...Savage Mk II BV. The CZ is great but the Savage shoots pretty much as well for a fair bit less cost. My last 5 shot 100 group with my Savage three days ago measured .870".

The Savage Mk II FV and the Stevens rifles leave me cold. The drop at the comb on the FV is too much for a scoped rifle and the Stevens rifles are clearly cheapened.
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Get a 10/22 and a Savage MKII FV, but drop the FV into a Boyd's stock... great shooter for a reasonable price, and it will have a "more" unique look that "fits your eye."
 
chanman said:
Isn't the Mark II BV in one of the Boyd's laminate stocks already? I'm pretty sure my BTV is a Boyd's RVT thumbhole stock.
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The BV has the Boyd`s Rimfire Target stock the BTV has the Rimfire Varmint Thumbhole... BUT, you are stuck with the Nutmeg (or maybe the pepper) laminate... you are better off buying the basic version and then adding the Boyd`s of your choice... adding DIP metal is a bonus, as the factory mag plate sucks... buy a DIP scope rail at the same time.

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The marlin XT series and the Savage Mk2 series are both great rifles. I have both and they are extremely accurate, especially given the price. Triggers take a bit of break in on them to smooth out and the marlin action is definitely rough to start off - the savage is way smoother out of box. I actually have a sneaking suspicion that if I use the right ammo on a good day I can shoot both my Marlin 981T(old trigger, same gun as XT, just replaced trigger last night with a JARD) and my wife's Mk2 FSS to shoot under 1MOA @ 100m(going to try maybe this weekend). As it is my silhouette gun is a Savage Mk2 TR with a 6-24x SII sightron target dot on it and my one day of testing loads(bit windy) I routinely shot 0.8" and my group of the day was 0.6" at 100m.

If you have the money the CZ rifles are nice and will keep you happy for a lifetime. The higher end savage guns I put on par. The hunter versions of the marlin and savages will easily do an inch or less at 50m with bulk ammo once you find the ones it likes(my Marlin likes 555 and dynapoints with xperts a close 3rd).

For a semi the 10/22 is probably the way I would go to be honest, but I'm not a huge semi fan of anything.
 
I have most of the above...

The CZ452 Varmint was my first... And you know what they say about your first. Very Highly Recommended - just get yourself a good scope. You will not be disappointed. This one I use at 50 to 100 for target shooting and anti-small furry creature work. Also grab some spare 10 rnd magazines if you can find them - I find myself consistently patting the bench looking for full magazines after a good string. Single hole groups are the norm.

I grabbed a Savage Mk2 FVT and restocked it into a Boyd's Evo. I upgraded the target sights and the thing is a consistent 10 ringer at 20yds and at 50yds. The heavy barrel is nicely balanced in an EVO stock. It's a good rifle, especially for the price. Toss the polymer stock though. Better yet, sell it.

The 10-22 is a nice machine - good for spewing lots of lead at a decent accuracy... The only problem I have with mine is that I keep dropping more and more money into it to customize it. First it was a Blaster stock... then a mag release... Then a bipod... then a barrel... Trigger's next... It's like the joke about your great grandfather's axe... Sure, the head's been replaced a couple times... And dad replaced the handle a couple times too... But it's still the same axe...

At this point, the Savage has run up the lowest total and I use it most often. The CZ was more expensive, but worth the money for the range work and it has always been good to me. The 10-22 is the spoiled brat of the collection. She shoots well, not as perfectly well as the others, but she's a heck of a lot more fun.

Good luck!
 
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