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Hey all I'm sure this has been talked about before. But I couldn't find much on it.

I'm just wondering if you guys can inform me as to what all is involved for driving powder and other reloading supplies back up to our side from the states. I would like to bring back a few things when I head down next week.
Thanks.

Sorry about the title. Still getting use to this phone. Ha.
 
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This is probably the most asked topic on here but bascially you cannot take guns, gun parts, ammo, ammo parts (bullets, primers, cases, powder) out of the US without a US export permit. So it's just easier to buy it here. Canadian Law on Importing is a different thing, and many people go down south and take stuff out of the US anyways but you only have to get caught once. I'm sure there will be 20 more replies with the same thing and links to quotes of law etc. and a few people saying its ok they do it all the time.

Tools like reloading press, dies, trimmers and gun tools are not the same and generally have no restrictions.
 
Apparently you didn't like the answers provided on the other site.
I doubt that you will like the answers posted here either. By the way, one of the people supplying the answers for you on the other site actually works for Canada Customs, and he knows the laws much better than most people.

A helpful link relevant to the topic.

http://wp.acsainc.com/Membership/alien firearm sales.pdf

A thread from this forum on the topic

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71789

and a few people saying its ok they do it all the time

There will always be some people that are willing to take big risks to save a few dollars. I just wish that they would stop trying to justify their actions, and stop telling other people that is is okay to do what they do. As well, some people forget that when they are in the USA, they need to comply with USA laws. Quoting Canadian laws to make their actions sound legal, are not going to protect them , if they are caught in the USA,by Homeland Security, with controlled materials in their possession.
 
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When you cross the border, two things happen simultaneously. You are importing into Canada and exporting from the US. Two different countries, two sets of laws, you need to comply with both. Canada doesn't care what you IMPORT, but the US certainly cares what you EXPORT.


There ARE random exit checks run by US Customs & Border Patrol and Homeland Security. They specifically look for firearms and components, along with drugs, etc.

WHEN you get caught by a US exit check, you are a smuggler, thereby a felon in the US. Minimum penalties have been confiscation of all purchases, plus a ban on entering the US from a minimum of 5 years, up to life. They can also confiscate your vehicle and detain you if they want.

A ban on entering the US also puts you on the no-fly list which means you can't overfly US airspace, even if you don't land. Going to Mexico or the Caribbean becomes expensive when you have to fly via Europe.

The number of US border security staff (not including major increses in Homeland Security and ATF) has doubled from 2004 to 2010, and has increased again the last 2 years.

Also, US CBP, ATF, and Homeland Security, don't control export of arms, ammunition and components so don't quote or ask them questions. The US State Department controls exports under ITAR, so if you have questions they are the ONLY ones you ask questions. Commerce Department handles export of shotguns.

Is it worth it to save $20? Or even $100?
 
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Apparently you didn't like the answers provided on the other site.
I doubt that you will like the answers posted here either. By the way, one of the people supplying the answers for you on the other site actually works for Canada Customs, and he knows the laws much better than most people.

A helpful link relevant to the topic.

http://wp.acsainc.com/Membership/alien firearm sales.pdf

Note that there is a very recent ruling by ATF, that NIAs who are allowed entry to the US without a visa can purchase and possess ammunition and firearms. Subject to State and other laws of course.

Export is of course a completely separate issue.
 
Note that there is a very recent ruling by ATF, that NIAs who are allowed entry to the US without a visa can purchase and possess ammunition and firearms. Subject to State and other laws of course.

Do you have a link to that ruling?
 
So according to the interpretations of that ruling that were posted on the thread, Canadians would still need a Form 6-NIA to bring our firearms into the USA, but they won't need to attach a hunting license or invitation to a match to their application for the Form 6-NIA? Do we need a Form 6-NIA, or any other documents to purchase firearms or ammunition in the USA when this comes into effect?
 
Is it worth it to save $20? Or even $100?


Thing is... From what I've seen in the US there are not really any bargains when it comes to reloading components
At retail the prices on powder, primers, bullets are pretty much the same or higher than here in Canada...

Buying bulk from wholesales here is the less expensive route.
 
Thing is... From what I've seen in the US there are not really any bargains when it comes to reloading components
At retail the prices on powder, primers, bullets are pretty much the same or higher than here in Canada...

From what I have seen, powder is cheaper by around $5 to $10 per pound, depending where you buy it. The other components aren't much cheaper in most cases.

As for the new ruling that is soon coming into effect, it appears that a non resident still needs a Form 6-NIA to possess firearms or ammunition in the USA.
 
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As for the new ruling that is soon coming into effect, it appears that a non resident still needs a Form 6-NIA to possess firearms or ammunition in the USA.

A Form 6NIA was never required to possess ammo or firearms in the US. It is only to temporarily import your own firearms. The hunting license or invite was what was required to satisfy Federal law (their interpretation at that time)

I confirmed number of years ago that only a hunting license was required to possess firearms or ammo, as I have family in the US and would borrow their firearms for hunting.
 
Apparently you didn't like the answers provided on the other site.
I doubt that you will like the answers posted here either. By the way, one of the people supplying the answers for you on the other site actually works for Canada Customs, and he knows the laws much better than most people.

I thought it would be more apparent that I'm trying to get as much help and info I can from between the two. And actually I think that every reply is a great answer, as it shows the willingness of people wanting to help.
 
The problem with buying in Canada is there is no goto place to order order firearms related items we don't have a midway or midsouth shooters supply. We have several small online suppliers that don't carry thr variety that is avalable in the states. I have completly given up on Wholesale sports online it can take up to 3 weeks just to tell you they haven't got what you ordered.
 
Most powder was under $20 a pound last year Stateside.Standard dies as well. Bullets no .Leupold scopes $100 less or better.............Harold
 
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