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Crap, I think lost a year of my life trying to make this work...

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This is precisely why I carry a document that I created for each of my black rifles right in their gun cases.
It includes manufacturer, model, classification, a hi-res manufacturer's picture of the rifle, local retailer information who sells the same firearm, and multiple contact information including the regional firearms go-to person (CFSC, RO, IPSC, etc.).
And for the firearms with LAR-15s I carry a printout of the RCMP document.

We were told in our CFSC course that it was wise to do this (although not to the degree that I have but I like to cover my butt 10 ways to sunday).
And to call the instructor on his cell if we ever got stopped/searched by the RCMP with issues related to the firearm(s) in our possession.

I realize this is bowing down to the "your papers please" mindset of our police state, but it should end any confrontations quickly.
 
Right! Indeed!
How could I possibly confuse this country with a country where gun owners stand together by collectively supporting an effective shooting rights organization and fight for their rights.
That's why the cops are running roughshod over Canadian gun owners.
Because they're allowed to essentially because of the kind of apathy apparent in the quoted post.
The philosophy of defeat and surrender.

I think if anything we should be aiming at a gun lobby more like the one down south. Nothing wrong with looking to a successful model. TOGunGal couldn't be more right about our apathy. I think in many ways it goes beyond apathy. Our community has a distinguished history of eating our own, like how we are constantly throwing each other under the bus.

I don't know what it is about the "Canadian Way", but it seems like whenever we are faced with some kind of injustice, we get mad, we scream about it for a while, then we eat dinner, watch some Matlock, and forget all about it the next day. It's like we have been programmed to be nice little subjects.
 
I think if anything we should be aiming at a gun lobby more like the one down south. Nothing wrong with looking to a successful model. TOGunGal couldn't be more right about our apathy. I think in many ways it goes beyond apathy. Our community has a distinguished history of eating our own, like how we are constantly throwing each other under the bus.

I don't know what it is about the "Canadian Way", but it seems like whenever we are faced with some kind of injustice, we get mad, we scream about it for a while, then we eat dinner, watch some Matlock, and forget all about it the next day. It's like we have been programmed to be nice little subjects.

Friggin exactly...this is why I have a hard time putting myself out there killing my career when I'd be knifed in the back the following week.
 
Amazing the reaction without any details. Haters in every corner are out in strides.

Let's hear some details?

I'm not a hater, I've just seen this, and things like it, more than you have. There are some truly excellent human beings that work in law enforcement, but like any profession there are those who aren't so excellent, in fact aren't even minimally suitable for the job, and it seems that their are more and more of those every year. Sad really, it makes life much tougher for the really good ones.
 
Funny how the avergae law abiding citizen gets told "Ignorance of the law is no defence", yet some NOT all law enforcement can go out armed with little grey matter and they scream "acting in good faith" when they arrest someone and seize their property without lawful authority to do so. This job is really not that hard, open a book once and a while, read legal updates, and make an effort to learn the laws. No one can have every detail committed to memory nor have every element of an offence rolling off their tongue, but in this day and age of instant access to information, its pretty hard to fu@k it up...really. I have numerous links to the CCC, FA, and numerous other provincial and Federal Acts on my Iphone and can have a pretty damn good idea where I should be going with something. Then there are the dozens of LE only contact numbers which we can call while at the roadside to get info.
 
Where you from BC? The terminals most definitely do give total full access to the FRT in the mobile terminals at work. Trust me ;)

Listen OP, call the detachment and make an appointment to speak with det. Commander to speak about this. If they don't big deal it won't make it past first appearance. Your only accused of this crime not convicted of it :)

I don't have access to FRT's on my agency MDT's and I don't know of any surrounding agency that has access. Yes I am in BC.

Why would the gun need to go to a lab?
I have a DA Grizzly and the registration certificate says non-restricted in black and white.
All that is required is the ability to read English.
My DA Grizzly came with a pistol grip in the box with the gun.
If the stock is replaced with the pistol grip that is another story and the gun becomes either restricted or prohibited (I'm not sure which).

I said maybe it will go to a lab. Perhaps the stock has been replaced with a pistol grip. I don't know. Going by the OP's original post that he has a court date in order to prove it is a firearm and it is prohibited (for court purposes) it needs to be examined by an "expert" who will write a report. There are a few police agencies that have their own "experts" but the majority rely on the RCMP Lab for this service.

I find it suspicious that someone with 36 posts puts up two rather cryptic comments with very little information and yet some have already started with the "hate" and assumed the worst already. :rolleyes:

By the way. Shouldn't this be moved to a more appropriate forum like "Legalese?"
 
Hi guys as the post says I was arrested and charged fro haveing a prohibited shotgun. The RCMP say the barrel length is to short. The total length is legal and the cert says its non restricted. I have a court date and face a criminal record. Does anybody know of a good lawyer that is knowlegable in these matters or have any advise they can share.
Thanks

Soloman Friedman, Ed Berlew.
 
Yeah... Or maybe the stock will be replaced with a pistol grip at the lab
or just before going to the lab. Who knows?

There's that "hate" I was talking about. You of course "know" that police officers and the civilian employees that work for the various police agencies regularly lie and alter evidence right?

It sure is easy to spew hate while anonymous over the internet isn't it?
 
Homer, I apologize.
Please do not read any "hate" in my previous post,
because there wasn't any.
In addition, I didn't know until now you were a cop.
You, from all the people here, did not deserve to be offended.
Please let me know how you want me to edit my previous post.
 
In light of the above replies and responses I have a somewhat off topic but related question (the OP has been silent for a bit so I don't feel too bad about highjacking this for a moment)
Perhaps it should be in another thread but as there are a few LEOs here, I want to ask.

This is a question that has been bothering me for some time. I've been out of the country for a number of years so I'm out of touch but when and why did 'cop' become an accepted way to talk about LEOs? The first time I heard a respected newsman say 'cop' on the national news I almost spit out my coffee. I see it in print media all the time (not rags but real newspapers.). Of course 'cop' 'copper' etc has been used for a very long time but always very casually and almost always in a somewhat derogatory way. Now it seems 'cop' is an accepted way to talk about LEOs? Is it?
 
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Funny how the avergae law abiding citizen gets told "Ignorance of the law is no defence", yet some NOT all law enforcement can go out armed with little grey matter and they scream "acting in good faith" when they arrest someone and seize their property without lawful authority to do so. This job is really not that hard, open a book once and a while, read legal updates, and make an effort to learn the laws. No one can have every detail committed to memory nor have every element of an offence rolling off their tongue, but in this day and age of instant access to information, its pretty hard to fu@k it up...really. I have numerous links to the CCC, FA, and numerous other provincial and Federal Acts on my Iphone and can have a pretty damn good idea where I should be going with something. Then there are the dozens of LE only contact numbers which we can call while at the roadside to get info.

too bad it's not funny at all.
 
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