180 gr or 200 gr bullets in 300 H&H?
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For the sake of 20 grs of lead, I doubt if any animal could tell the difference. It sort of depends on what bullet you're using and what you're shooting at, but I can't see any practical difference if you're comparing similar bullets, nosler partition vs. nosler partition for example
tried both in my 300wm
180 goes about 100 p/s at muzle but the higher BC oc the 200 gr accubound brings them at same speed aroud 400m so you will get more range with a high BC 200gr
G7 of 200gr accubound is .268
under 400m, either one makes no difference
180 goes about 100 p/s at muzle but the higher BC oc the 200 gr accubound brings them at same speed aroud 400m so you will get more range with a high BC 200gr
G7 of 200gr accubound is .268
under 400m, either one makes no difference
More slam to the gram!
The great advantage of the large case 300 mags (300 Win Mag and 300 H&H Mag) over the 30-06 is the ability to accommodate heavier bullets. Therefore, to get the full benefit of say a 300 Win Mag, use 200 gr bullets. Moving up from 180gr to 200grgives you an increase of 11% in bullet weight, meaning better penetration and less wind drift at extreme hunting distances on the plains, less meat damage up close, and uses less propellant (a little longer barrel life). Velocity is only down by about 4%!
In the field with larger animals the 200gr bullet will have more knock down power than a 180gr of the same make and model. This has been prooved in Africa in hunting and culling operations.
In his excellent book Rifles for Africa (p193) Gregor Woods states..." the only real justification for the small bore magnums (here referring to the 300 Win Mag and 300 Weatherby Mag) is their ability to shoot heavier bullets at useful velocities for long range hunting." Further on he states..." the hunter should be using 220gr bullets, or at least the lightest, 200gr bullets in the magnums". This was with reference to bullets containing lead cores. In monometal, with a barrel twist of 1:10 inch, 180 -200gr would work well.
Emperical research done by Dr Kevin Robertson, a well educated and published Professional hunter, veterinary surgeon and sports hunter, has found that the heavy 380gr Rhino bullets in the 375 H&H gives stopping power which is similar to, or exceeds the 416 calibres when used with solids on buffalo culling in Africa (416 Rem Mag and 416 Rigby).
"More slam to the gram, and more bounse to the ounce" !!!
Hope this helps
The great advantage of the large case 300 mags (300 Win Mag and 300 H&H Mag) over the 30-06 is the ability to accommodate heavier bullets. Therefore, to get the full benefit of say a 300 Win Mag, use 200 gr bullets. Moving up from 180gr to 200grgives you an increase of 11% in bullet weight, meaning better penetration and less wind drift at extreme hunting distances on the plains, less meat damage up close, and uses less propellant (a little longer barrel life). Velocity is only down by about 4%!
In the field with larger animals the 200gr bullet will have more knock down power than a 180gr of the same make and model. This has been prooved in Africa in hunting and culling operations.
In his excellent book Rifles for Africa (p193) Gregor Woods states..." the only real justification for the small bore magnums (here referring to the 300 Win Mag and 300 Weatherby Mag) is their ability to shoot heavier bullets at useful velocities for long range hunting." Further on he states..." the hunter should be using 220gr bullets, or at least the lightest, 200gr bullets in the magnums". This was with reference to bullets containing lead cores. In monometal, with a barrel twist of 1:10 inch, 180 -200gr would work well.
Emperical research done by Dr Kevin Robertson, a well educated and published Professional hunter, veterinary surgeon and sports hunter, has found that the heavy 380gr Rhino bullets in the 375 H&H gives stopping power which is similar to, or exceeds the 416 calibres when used with solids on buffalo culling in Africa (416 Rem Mag and 416 Rigby).
"More slam to the gram, and more bounse to the ounce" !!!
Hope this helps
Thanks for the replies all especially RSA1.
Gregor Woods is one of the few gun writers I still have respect for, his articles in Man/Magnum is very objective and he does not care to sell the latest and greatest gimmic to readers.
I think I will be picking up a box of 200 grain softs soon.
Thanks again
Gregor Woods is one of the few gun writers I still have respect for, his articles in Man/Magnum is very objective and he does not care to sell the latest and greatest gimmic to readers.
I think I will be picking up a box of 200 grain softs soon.
Thanks again
I used to use the 200gr Sierra BT in my 300H&H with good results, Used 180 Hornady and Partitions and 165 Ballistic Tips and Hornady for deer. I could never tell the difference. 36 animals from deer to goats and bears. They all went down quickly.
I have some partitions on hand which I will use up first but after that I plan on trying out some of the Sierra bullets I heard they tend to be very accurate.
Look at the 200gr Accubond as well, if it was available back when I had it I would have used them. The Sierra works great, shot great @2700fps but I had one lose its jacket at 120yds in a whitetail doe. It didn't even make it through the deer. Found it (lead) under the hide on the off side and the jacket just 3" into the entrance hole. The Accubond won't do that.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I like heavy for caliber bullets myself, so I'd be checking out 220 gr Partitions and 240 gr Woodleighs for use in the H&H. Honesty compels me to admit though that anything worth doing with a .30 caliber bullet can be accomplished with a 180 of suitable construction.
