Some appreciation for the spotered enfield

My grandfather had a sportered Lee Enfield Carbine 1896(sob) and he used FMJ in it sometimes. He filed an X on the nose of the FMJ bullets with a triangular file. Made a ghastly wound.

Don't tell Geneva, but some soldiers would do this, or just cut the point off. My Dad called 'em dum-dums. Very serious wounds indeed!
 
Some Parker Hale conversion I have sold off in the past.

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The bottom one is gorgeous!
 
Don't tell Geneva, but some soldiers would do this, or just cut the point off. My Dad called 'em dum-dums. Very serious wounds indeed!

problem is sometimes the lead would blow through leaving a smaller bore for the next round, with an attendant bulge or burst. the Mk7 was made for increased lethality with an aluminum or wood tip changing the center of mass and causing reduced stability on impact to cause keyholing or tumbling. by WW1 modifying the bullet would have been superfluous.


Dum-Dum Arsenal was a British military facility located near the town of Dum Dum (near Calcutta) in modern West Bengal, India.[1]

The arsenal was at the center of the Indian Rebellion of 1857 regarding suspicion that cartridges distributed at the arsenal were greased with pig and cow fat.[2]

It was at this arsenal that Captain Neville Bertie-Clay developed the so-called "Dum-dum bullet" (Mark IV cartridge), a exposed-nose bullet designed to mushroom in flesh. This was the first expanding bullet for military use, later banned from use in warfare by the Hague Convention.
 
problem is sometimes the lead would blow through leaving a smaller bore for the next round, with an attendant bulge or burst. the Mk7 was made for increased lethality with an aluminum or wood tip changing the center of mass and causing reduced stability on impact to cause keyholing or tumbling. by WW1 modifying the bullet would have been superfluous.


Dum-Dum Arsenal was a British military facility located near the town of Dum Dum (near Calcutta) in modern West Bengal, India.[1]

The arsenal was at the center of the Indian Rebellion of 1857 regarding suspicion that cartridges distributed at the arsenal were greased with pig and cow fat.[2]

It was at this arsenal that Captain Neville Bertie-Clay developed the so-called "Dum-dum bullet" (Mark IV cartridge), a exposed-nose bullet designed to mushroom in flesh. This was the first expanding bullet for military use, later banned from use in warfare by the Hague Convention.

I never realized the reason before. Thanks, interesting.
 
Don't worry about the Draft.

Canada has only ever drafted men when there WERE no more willing volunteers.

In War Two, men were drafted for Home Defence only. THEN it became necessary to send a few overseas and we STILL haven't heard the end of the sh*t from ONE province.

Had there been enough willing volunteers, it never would have become necessary to draft anyone. The PROBLEM, as usual, was POLITICS..... with the Liberals involved right up to their smelly little armpits, lying to their own constituents and keeping the country divided against itself, then implementing the program unequally and unfairly.

Canada fielded 4 Divisions during the Great War. The plan for War Two was to send over SIX.

Idea for a Project: find out where 5th Div and 6th Div got to.

Politician: someone who can convince you that he has your best interests at heart.... while he empties your grandchildren's wallets before they are born.
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Politics aside, Canada did field 5 Divs in WW2; 1st, 2nd, 3rd Inf Div, 4th Armd Div, and 5th Armd Div. We also fielded 2 separate Armd Bdes, the 1st and 2nd which, with supporting troops, would have been the equivalent of a sixth Div.

There was also a huge investment in Army level troops for the 1st Cdn Army as well as corps troops for the 1st and 2nd Corps. These higher level formations were very heavy in artillery. Each corps also had a recce regt, then there were extra engineers and specialized logistics and communications units. The field army in WW2 was heavily mechanized in comparison to WW1, hence the need for additional support troops.

Also, the RCAF gobbled up large numbers of men who might otherwise have been wearing brown. Other than the futile exercises of Hong Kong and Dieppe, the Army really didn't start taking heavy casualties until going into Sicily/Italy in mid-1943. The RCAF bore most of the casualties before that and continued to suffer heavy losses until VE Day.

As an aside, I am presently interviewing an RCAF vet for a book. He was a rear gunner, turned pilot, who survived 33 missions on Halifax bombers and considered himself a very lucky man to have survived with only a flesh wound from German AA. I was moved by him saying, "I watched a lot of young men disappear or grow old in the space of a year".
 
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There was considerable bitterness amongst Canadian servicemen in the European theatre when orders were received from Ottawa that volunteers were not to wear their volunteer service ribbon on their uniform. This was a politically motivated decision to not cause embarrassment to conscripted soldiers referred to as "Zombies" by the volunteer soldiers. In late 44 and 45 most Canadian fighting units were desperately understrength in northern Europe due to the Liberal governments lack of fortitude in refusing to send conscripted infantry overseas.
 
I have a Long Branch No.4 that got the Supreme treatment by Parker Hale. It's a very nice hunting rifle that I am sure can do more than I can.
 
I've owned a No5 JC since 1962 and it has gotten me a lot of nice animals over the yrs incl moose, mulies, many whitetails incl my 2 best ones, and a nice chocolate/cinnamon phase boar black bear. I paid $18 for it in un-issued condition from the old SIR mail order catalog (a major investment for a 15 yr old at the time), fitted it with a Bishop Monte Carlo butt and had it D&T for a scope mount by the late Eddie Mather who used to run his shop on Avenue A in Saskatoon (been a long time since it was called Avenue A). My last scope change on it was some 35 yrs ago when I installed a Redfield 23/4X Widefield. I couldn't think of a better rifle for hunting in the bush. A lot of people were cutting down No4s at the time, but I always liked the short barrel and forestock with handguard left in place.
 
My favourite rifle in my favourite caliber (except the last one on the right which is a custom .50 muzzleloader, so that my muzzleloader has the same trigger, stock, feel etc. as most of my other favourite hunting rifles & a couple of other Lees in .256 Flanged Nitro Express, .500/320 Flanged Nitro Express, .375 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/2", .360 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/4" & .420 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/4). The original High Velocity Sporting Rifles have not been desecrated by drilling and tapping; they are wearing ATI base units.

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My favourite rifle in my favourite caliber (except the last one on the right which is a custom .50 muzzleloader, so that my muzzleloader has the same trigger, stock, feel etc. as most of my other favourite hunting rifles & a couple of other Lees in .256 Flanged Nitro Express, .500/320 Flanged Nitro Express, .375 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/2", .360 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/4" & .420 Flanged Nitro Express 2 1/4). The original High Velocity Sporting Rifles have not been desecrated by drilling and tapping; they are wearing ATI base units.

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Those are some fine looking rifles. Some of those Monte Carlo stocks have some beautiful grain. I've been meaning to get one myself lately. I've owned a couple sporters but at the moment I just have 3 in original trim.
 
does anyone know what rifles parker hale used to sporterize? im thinking of buying one and the seller is not sure of what No. or Mk. the rifle is. I am only interested in a No. 4
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how do you differentiate a no1 vs a no4? like what pops out instantly to let you know it a no1? whats it worth?

The no4's have a totally different receiver. On the side that the scope mount is mounted to is curved on a no1, it is flat on a no4. Also the bridge has been cut down on that no1, see that large peice of metal on the side of the receiver that wood has been cut around. Only no1's had the bridge and the wood that was cut around to fit it.

As for price. All depends on what someone would pay, I saw a one identical to that without the scope for $140. Previuosly I picked up a no4 parkerhale with a scope and checkered cheakrest stock for 140 shipped. With the prices today on enfields I would think atleast $250 would be the asking price. $180 if not less is what I would be confortable at.
 
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thanks for the info, I was trying to compare pics online but those things didnt stand out immediately. now I will know!
 
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