Cleaning my M&P40, what am i doing wrong?

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Hey guys,

I sat down tonight to clean my M&P40 for the first time since bringing her home. My issue is, i ran some Hoppe's Elite Gun Cleaner down the barrel, then used the brass brush with a patch and ran it down the barrel. The brush just pushed through the patch everytime. It is a very tight push.

Twice now, it's been bare brush through the barrel after it pushed right through. Can i damage the barrel with the bare brass brush? What am i doing wrong?

I bought an "all in one' kit from Williams Arms. I think it was 18 bucks.
 
padawan said:
Hey guys,

I sat down tonight to clean my M&P40 for the first time since bringing her home. My issue is, i ran some Hoppe's Elite Gun Cleaner down the barrel, then used the brass brush with a patch and ran it down the barrel. The brush just pushed through the patch everytime. It is a very tight push.

Twice now, it's been bare brush through the barrel after it pushed right through. Can i damage the barrel with the bare brass brush? What am i doing wrong?

I bought an "all in one' kit from Williams Arms. I think it was 18 bucks.
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The brass brush is softer than the steel barrel and wont hurt it. You need a brass brush to remove lead deposit and a patch by itself to clean the barrel. Use patches until they come out clean and no longer pick up any dirt residue from the barrel.
 
wait you mean you are putting the patch in WITH the brush?

Just use the brass brush by itself.. it wont hurt a thing. just dont use a steel brush.
 
The brush is "very sharp" for lack of better wording. It pushes right through the patch. Should i just run the patch through with the shaft and forget the brush?
 
padawan said:
The brush is "very sharp" for lack of better wording. It pushes right through the patch. Should i just run the patch through with the shaft and forget the brush?
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You shouldnt be putting a patch on the end of the brush. Bare brass brush is FINE to use in the barrel. I clean my M&P 9mm this way every time

1. Run the brush by itself through the barrel with solvent

2. Run however many patches you need through the barrel untill you see them stop coming out with dirt/solvent.

direction wise go chamber to muzzle, dont pull back and forth.
 
padawan said:
Hey guys,

I sat down tonight to clean my M&P40 for the first time since bringing her home.

I bought an "all in one' kit from Williams Arms. I think it was 18 bucks.
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What kind of ammo have you been shooting? Unless you are shooting lead, your barrel shouldn't have any deposits...just a patch with some CLP or Hoppes should be enough. I use FMJ commercial reloads [BDX] and my M&P40 takes hundreds of rounds before it's dirty enough to warrant cleaning.

If this is its initial pre-shooting cleaning, giving it all a wipe down with a slightly oily rag or patch and a proper dab of oil per the lube instructions should be enough.
 
you push a patch through with some oil on it, then you use bore cleaner and the brush to scrub it clean (by going one way several times, not a scrubbing motion in the barrel) then you use patches that are dry to get the crap out then when those come out clean you use a oiled patch one more time

i should say that this is the conventional way to clean a barrel and that i go with the shuemann method of not cleaning the bore at all, i just clean deposits out of the chamber and call it a day
 
Tengoo said:
What kind of ammo have you been shooting? Unless you are shooting lead, your barrel shouldn't have any deposits...just a patch with some CLP or Hoppes should be enough. I use FMJ commercial reloads [BDX] and my M&P40 takes hundreds of rounds before it's dirty enough to warrant cleaning.

If this is its initial pre-shooting cleaning, giving it all a wipe down with a slightly oily rag or patch and a proper dab of oil per the lube instructions should be enough.
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I bought it new a few days ago. I could see some deposits and bits of S&*t in the barrel. I figured it was left from the few rounds they fire at the factory......even though my pistol didn't come with an empty cartridge.
 
Tengoo said:
What kind of ammo have you been shooting? Unless you are shooting lead, your barrel shouldn't have any deposits...just a patch with some CLP or Hoppes should be enough. I use FMJ commercial reloads [BDX] and my M&P40 takes hundreds of rounds before it's dirty enough to warrant cleaning.

If this is its initial pre-shooting cleaning, giving it all a wipe down with a slightly oily rag or patch and a proper dab of oil per the lube instructions should be enough.
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This. However I clean my M&P after every 100 rounds or so :p
 
instead of using a brush to push the patch you need a jag. It is an attachment for your rod that is very close to caliber diameter, also made of brass and has lateral grooves cut into it to hold the patch. It's flat on the end like a wad cutter so it won't tear/cut through your patches.
1) Brush crap out.
2) solvent on patch and push through with jag several times.
3) Dry patches til clean ones come out (like wiping your butt ;)).
4) Oil patch several times and your done...until the next time anyhow. :)

or invest in a boresnake pull through. well worth the $$ IMHO.
 
The kit should have come with an end which looks like the eye of a needle. It's not as good as a properly fitted jag for pushing through patches but it's OK for now. There's a couple of ways to use this eye patch holder. One is to pull a corner through for about a third of the area then fold the remainder around the end and push that through. Another is to fold the patch over a few times until it's narrow enough to start a corner through the eye and pull it half way through. Then push that whole thing down the bore.

As for bore snakes I don't use them and I don't like them. They are easy to use and that's the danger. You end up pulling the same snake through over and over and it's charged with the same old grunge that you removed last time. At least I don't know of any or many that use them and clean them after each use. Using a proper rod and ends takes a little longer. But it allows the use of clean patches each time. And to me that counts for a lot.
 
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