Save my 858!!!!

rhino519 said:
you done it after shooting, prior to rust setting in, that will work for removing corrosive chemicals but once rust sets in, what's the point??/
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Agreed.

Once the metal has rusted, pouring hot water on it won't wash away the salts and prevent the corrosive salts from making it rust lol

It's a little late for preventive measures at this point :rolleyes:

I would try shooting it again. Then oil the #### out of the bore, squirt it in there. Let it sit for a day or two then go at the bore with a new brass bore brush and whole whack of patches.

That's what I would try, mind you I never let my guns sit for more than an hour after shooting corrosive ammo. Especially in Ontario where the humidity is bad most summers and the rust starts fast.
 
bfiles said:
How can I read the box if I have never seen it??
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Would you like me to send you some?

You see alot of people get all panikiy when there new scope gets wet, or there fancy finish on the wood that they just redid gets a little rain on it.

Do you understand that water is a corrosion excellerant, and that if you don't do this properly your steel will rust?

Would you grease your tires when your truck is not fast enough for you?
 
Dunno about the 858's, but the CSA VZ58 video shows the barrel install involving heating up the receiver a LOT, then putting it into a custom jig where the barrel is simply pressed into place. Meaning...could be complicated to impossible for your Canadian 'smith. I'm sure a couple could do it, but finding one could take a while.
 
Innercity said:
Would you like me to send you some?

You see alot of people get all panikiy when there new scope gets wet, or there fancy finish on the wood that they just redid gets a little rain on it.

Do you understand that water is a corrosion excellerant, and that if you don't do this properly your steel will rust?

Would you grease your tires when your truck is not fast enough for you?
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I agree.I dont know why anyone would use water to clean steel after shooting corrosive ammo.Seems counter productive to me when there are so many better alternatives out there.I use Gunzilla and have purposely left my Cz for weeks on end after shooting corrosive surplus through it all day at the range.Never any rust at all.Same cannot be said for water.Im sure water works in a pinch.Why use it though if your not in a pinch???
 
Mine got rusty a couple times..... Always use hot water to scrub it clean before drying and oiling, otherwise the salts will still be there and it will rust even with wd40 in the bore.
 
apparently since the water is boiling hot any left over is evaporated quickly by the heat. and since you then clean it as usual with a clp or some kind of oil to finish it up it should be sealed against any condensation. I have never done the boiling water method personally just shooters choice copper fouling remover and breakfree clp.i have used the ####ty brass thread together cleaning rod as well i am wondering what others use i was thinking about those fiberglass rods. i dont like how the brass thread togethers have the knurled end pieces where the patch holder attaches. brass shouldn't be ablt to wear a steel barrel though should it?
 
Innercity said:
Would you like me to send you some?

You see alot of people get all panikiy when there new scope gets wet, or there fancy finish on the wood that they just redid gets a little rain on it.

Do you understand that water is a corrosion excellerant, and that if you don't do this properly your steel will rust?

Would you grease your tires when your truck is not fast enough for you?
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Yeah that would be fantastic, aswell see above post about boiled water evapourating
 
tactical870 said:
Mine got rusty a couple times..... Always use hot water to scrub it clean before drying and oiling, otherwise the salts will still be there and it will rust even with wd40 in the bore.
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Probably cus you were using water. Unless you put the rifle in a oven your never going to get all the water out.

*Waits for someone to put there SKS in the dishwasher*

Oh wait.
H2O.
 
Oh man. Check out any youtube video then about cleaning a cz after shooting corrosive ammo or chexk out the sticky about cleaning the CZ. All is explained in there about usong boiled water
 
To set thw record sraight i have 4 CZ/CSA rifles which i only shoot surplus and use the booling water on all my bore and clean and oil afterwards which has NEVER had/shown any rust in any of my rifles. Guess booled water is ok tjen
 
Thats your choice, but to the OP just read the sticky instead of listening to internet banter then and figure out how you want to clean your guns. 1 person says dont use boilong water but anything youll read or watch suggests otherwise

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Climate is a huge factor in the likelyhood of rust taking hold, a corrosive ammo cleaning method that works fine in one area might not cut it in another that's more rust friendly to begin with.

Anyway I'd be inclined to go with the "slather it with a dedicated bore cleaner compound and let it sit overnight" method.
 
870P said:
Climate is a huge factor in the likelyhood of rust taking hold, a corrosive ammo cleaning method that works fine in one area might not cut it in another that's more rust friendly to begin with.

Anyway I'd be inclined to go with the "slather it with a dedicated bore cleaner compound and let it sit overnight" method.
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Yes. Bfiles do you take off your lower HG on your rifles every time you pour boiling water on them?
 
Innercity said:
Probably cus you were using water. Unless you put the rifle in a oven your never going to get all the water out.

*Waits for someone to put there SKS in the dishwasher*

Oh wait.
H2O.
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You'll get all the water out if you make up a gallon of Ed's Red and just drop all the parts right into a pot full after hot water rinsing and ragging them.

Same for the barrel, I use a syringe with hot water down the barrel then many syringes full of Ed's Red to displace all the water.

Any oil will displace the water as long as you drench it. Ed's Red is dirt cheap to make in quantity and you can just pour it back in the can after soaking it and use it again and again.

I've been shooting corrosive ammo and cleaning using this method for a long time and I've never had any rust on any of my rifles. I don't buy into the whole corrosive ammo will rust any worse than non corrosive as long as you clean it using any method AS SOON AS POSSIBLE lol

Once you leave it and the rust forms regardless, then you have an actual problem.

Sure it may rust a bit faster if you shoot corrosive but any gun will rust if you leave it long enough without cleaning after shooting it regardless of what ammo you shot through it.

Vigilance and discipline are the key to preventing the rust fairy from taking hold! :rockOn:
 
Innercity said:
Yes. Bfiles do you take off your lower HG on your rifles every time you pour boiling water on them?
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Actually this method comes from British forces. Old Enfield kit used to include a little funnel so Brits could pour boiling water down the bore of their rifles before cleaning with their pull through kit. Not slop it all over the rifle like a fool. Heres a little lesson: the corrosive substance in the primers is potassium chlorate. It is a water soluble compound that is easily broken down and washed away with water. Temperature is another factor as the cooler it gets the less water soluble it becomes. Boiling water, especially in a hot bore, removes it quickly and easily. The water heats the steel hot enough to evaporate the water. Oiling afterwards ensures rust protection as oils displace moisture. You can sit here and argue all kinds of speculative points but the rest of us have factual proof to back it up. Bfiles: I call troll on this guy :HR:
 
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