Why?!!!? WHYYYYYY!!!!!!????

Travis Bickle said:
I saw and handled an original Type 2 Milled receiver 1950 Izhevsk Ak-47 with the boot tang connecting the stock to the receiver which came back in a return from a discovered weapons cache on roto in Afghanistan! :eek:

Noone else even really seemed to care after I tried explaining how rare a historical piece this was with my raving gun nut enthusiasm hahaha.

The scary thing was that it seemed to be all or mostly original condition and it wasn't even that abused! I'd say it was good to very good condition.

Unbelievable!

You don't even want to know what we had to do with it and the rest of the batch that was sent in.......:(
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seems like they came fresh out of a warehouse somewhere.
 
Doesn't really matter who had them.

Point is that WE can NOT have them.

THEY live in a horrible dictatorship.

WE live in a FREE COUNTRY.

Is there something slightly amiss here???????

GET INVOLVED POLITICALLY.

Arseholic laws are MADE by Politicians, they can be UNMADE by Politicians.

Stephen Harper has already PROVED that.
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aftermidnight said:
Why does so much cool stuff end up in these sh!tholes??
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Because the Syrian government was given the chance to buy them or was given them back in the cold war days as military support from the east block.

An interesting find. Think of what western military collectors would pay if they were allowed to be inported?

What's being allowed to happen in Syria is another stain on the UN, the USA and the free world in general.

CS45
 
If they use those to fight with, I'm willing to bet they'd do some serious damage. I doubt they have 7.92kurz ammo though. If they sold the guns to the west, and I'm willing to bet the west would do business with the al qaeda rebels, they could probably get a lot of money per gun. I'm thinking $500.00 each wholesale, they sell for what, over 2k in the USA?
 
Russian Capture Lugers are pretty scarce here. I would think this would be the more likely source.

Russia would have picked up something like 50,000 Lugers and P-38s at Stalingrad alone and that was not the ONLY big fight on the Eastern front.
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smellie said:
Doesn't really matter who had them.

Point is that WE can NOT have them.

THEY live in a horrible dictatorship.

WE live in a FREE COUNTRY.

Is there something slightly amiss here???????

GET INVOLVED POLITICALLY.

Arseholic laws are MADE by Politicians, they can be UNMADE by Politicians.

Stephen Harper has already PROVED that.
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I agree completely,something is very amiss here in the "free" world..
 
The Syrians got quite a bit of ex-German ordnance, incl PzKwIV tanks, from France which they were using in fixed emplacements on the Golan during the 1967 war. I had a lot of contacts with the Syrian army in 1979 and again from 1987-1990. I never saw much equipment that wasn't of Soviet origin.
 
haha49 said:
seems like they came fresh out of a warehouse somewhere.
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The majority of the rest of them were pretty dicey, a lot of Chinese type 56
and Romanians. Most of them were all mixed up parts wise or missing front sights or even complete upper handguards gone.

But there was the one Ishevsk original AK47 in the whole tri-wall of them.

I can't even imagine what it would be worth to a collector or even a museum considering the history and how it ended up in the hands of the Talibs in Afghanistan :eek:

We destroyed them all by blowing them them up! :( FML I wanted to cry lol
 
purple said:
The Syrians got quite a bit of ex-German ordnance, incl PzKwIV tanks, from France which they were using in fixed emplacements on the Golan during the 1967 war. I had a lot of contacts with the Syrian army in 1979 and again from 1987-1990. I never saw much equipment that wasn't of Soviet origin.
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The Israelis have a Panzer IV tank in their tank museum that someone hauled in off a battlefield during one of their wars with Syria. Odd and hard to support, but a fact.

Let's not forget that Syria was a client state of the Eastern bloc and before that of the middle powers like France. The MAS49 rifles we have in Canada came from Syria through the old International Firearms in Montreal. Nothing surprises me when it comes to old guns appearing out of Middle Eastern depots. The styrofoam packed New In Box (literally!) FN FALs in Libya are the perfect example.
 
Rocket Surgery said:
If they use those to fight with, I'm willing to bet they'd do some serious damage. I doubt they have 7.92kurz ammo though. If they sold the guns to the west, and I'm willing to bet the west would do business with the al qaeda rebels, they could probably get a lot of money per gun. I'm thinking $500.00 each wholesale, they sell for what, over 2k in the USA?
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Problem with any Fully Automatic Firearm, is they have not been allowed to be imported into the US since 1968, and no new Autos have been able to be imported into Canada since 1978... :(

Also, in the USA, an original StG44 Goes for about $20,000 to $35,000USD depending on condition, factors, accessories, etc... In Canada, they go for about $3000 to someone with the appropriate 12.2 endorsement.

gaff said:
when I was in Syria in 92, a lot of the military officers were carrying lugers for side arms.
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I met an older Lebanese gentleman at the range one time when I was shooting my Luger, and he mentioned he carried an Artillery Luger back in the old country... ;)
 
The longevity of some of these things is pretty amazing. For instance, when I was on the Golan in 1979 some of the Finnish officers were still carrying issue Lugers. At the same time the Austrians were still using WW2 vintage P38s. One of the IDF LOs was still packing an M1 Carbine in his jeep.

The Turks are also champion conservers of old ordnance. When I spent some time in E. Turkey in 1989 the Turkish Army looked like a bit of a WW2 replay-vintage WW2 deuce-and-a -halfs, Long Tom 155 guns, and even locally made M1A1 Thompson SMGs. The guards at the Turkish Army Museum in Instanbul were still shouldering No4 LEs at this same time. Come to think of it I saw various gate guards in Egypt armed with No4s in 1979.
 
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