What's the best sniper rifle? Rem 700? Which model?
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brnoshooter
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sniper ?- on the contrary, i'm a MARKSMAN- go look up what carlos hathcock or plaster has to say on the word sniper- "one who waits in ambush, in unexpected places ,to place one round in an enemy"- not really anything to be proud of
( it's not actually a direct quote, as i don't want to give the anti's any ammo to work with ; the direct quote involves the word redrum)
( it's not actually a direct quote, as i don't want to give the anti's any ammo to work with ; the direct quote involves the word redrum)
Ok, my turn.
Some people get bent when you use the term sniper rifle. It's because we are not snipers. I personally don't give a s**t.
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.223 is the most bang for the buck, pun intended.
Remington 700 Tactical, 20" barrel 1/9 twist >$700
Bushnell 3200 3.5-15x40 >$450
bipod, cleaning supplies, carry case , etc... >$200
Find a deal on 500 rounds of .223 and save the brass
Go shooting
Put a target up at 100yd and learn how to hit it precisely. Move to 200yd and start over, etc...
When you've acquired some brass, start shopping for a press. Learn to reload and get good at it.
Once you know how to reload, you're ready to upgrade the gun.
After all this is done, you'll be on your way to precision shooting.
The most important thing to remember is, a precision shooter with a beat up gun will outshoot a beginner shooter with $10,000 worth of gear.
Get it?
Gun and scope choices are examples only....
Most useful post for newbies right here! only thing I'd change is, if you want a real dmr, go with .308 the cost for the rifle will be the same (rem 700 SPS - $650) you'll pay a little more for ammo, but you'll have a platform that's good out to 700,800 yards (please no posts from the 'I hit a 2" target at 1200 yards with my .308 crowd') but other then that 9x19 is right on.
You can do that too with a .223 with a 1/7 twist barrel and the right ammo. It'll be cheaper and there is less recoil which means less chance of flinching = more trigger time for the dollar and better learning.
My 2 cents.
.22lr is awesome too, a 300$ Savage MKII can shoot MOA at 200m.
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Precision long range shooting takes a great deal of shooting to master, so it is certainly to your advantage to choose a cartridge like the .223 which as a result of its lower cost components allows you to put more rounds down range for your shooting dollar. Don't cheap out on the scope or mounts; typically the scope should cost more than the rifle. Keep in mind that the adjustments will be cranked back and forth on your long range scope, so you need adjustments that do not only provide a true value at the target, those adjustments must be able to withstand heavy use over many years, without loosing their precision. Consider products from Schmidt & Bender, Nightforce, and the Mk-1V Leupolds. The Savage with a 1:7 twist barrel mentioned by SandRoad is probably the top choice unless you wish to put a custom barrel on your choice of a donor action.
I have no issue with the term sniper rifle. We have a main Battle Rifle section on CGN, I see no difference, as either describes a tool used by the military to inflict damage to an enemy. The term assault rifle though is inaccurate as we can no longer own firearms with a full auto capability, so civilian AKs and ARs don't meet the definition. As for fuel for the antis, their opinion concerning your scope sighted, bolt action, precision rifle, will not change with the name you give it. They don't think you should be allowed to have it, for any reason, at any time, regardless of the term used to describe it. Call it what you like, we've frankly been giving these people more consideration than they deserve. From time to time firearms are used to resolve human conflict, thats just the way it is and the way it will always be.
I have no issue with the term sniper rifle. We have a main Battle Rifle section on CGN, I see no difference, as either describes a tool used by the military to inflict damage to an enemy. The term assault rifle though is inaccurate as we can no longer own firearms with a full auto capability, so civilian AKs and ARs don't meet the definition. As for fuel for the antis, their opinion concerning your scope sighted, bolt action, precision rifle, will not change with the name you give it. They don't think you should be allowed to have it, for any reason, at any time, regardless of the term used to describe it. Call it what you like, we've frankly been giving these people more consideration than they deserve. From time to time firearms are used to resolve human conflict, thats just the way it is and the way it will always be.
hometownhero
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No that would still be a sniper's rifle
The guy that recommended the 22 is the most truthful person on here. the rest are just opinions. for your requirements as you stated just getting into precision shooting it is the gun to learn on and meets all your requests IE inexpensive for the purchase of the rifle and ammuniton is almost a give away. How the one guy could tell you to buy anything in 338 is ridiculaous as you are paying on average about $4.00 per round. Military does not teach thier people to shoot at a 1000 yds, every thing is done up close till you get proficiant.
This is good advice. Since the OP didn't give any info about his experience, we have no idea if he is a total noobie, or just looking to get into a different part of sport shooting.
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His profile stated hes a newbie thats why i suggested a rimfire bolt gun
Not to split hairs, but he is a newbie only because he just joined this site and has only 4 posts. The site creates that status. We don't know his actual firearms experience. Too bad he hasn't come back to the thread he created.
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This is a serious sniper Gear....
Well, op may not be back but I am.
Note my original post was not flame, rant or anything disrespectful. I gave the OP my opinion and a little bit to think about as I have seen other new members get flamed for the same thing.
Ffs members of this community crucified me for ASKING why we need 10 round mag capacity in an sks on like my 10th post or something, I almost didn't want to come back.
Back on topic, I'd recommend marksmanship basics on a .22 if you are a new or inexperienced shooter. If you are more experienced then you ARE probably looking at 2000+$ in the next few months.
If you are not too serious about top tier precision shooting, grab any decently accurate rifle and throw decent glass on it. Ta-da!
Note my original post was not flame, rant or anything disrespectful. I gave the OP my opinion and a little bit to think about as I have seen other new members get flamed for the same thing.
Ffs members of this community crucified me for ASKING why we need 10 round mag capacity in an sks on like my 10th post or something, I almost didn't want to come back.
Back on topic, I'd recommend marksmanship basics on a .22 if you are a new or inexperienced shooter. If you are more experienced then you ARE probably looking at 2000+$ in the next few months.
If you are not too serious about top tier precision shooting, grab any decently accurate rifle and throw decent glass on it. Ta-da!
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