The Italian Connection Is Back Baby!!!

Well my sights came in today, front and rear bm59s I got them mounted
(With a little help from You-tube) and then went to the range

I did not like how high the front sight sat and it’s allot wider blade then the Norc ...but I sighted it in any ways

The bm59 rear sight is nice, The aperture hole is at least 1/2 that of the factory norc and round lol.the machining pic speaks for its self

Groupings where no better than the Norc originals and the rear sight was jacked up so high to sight in the front, I did not like that at all...

So i put the Norc front sight back on ....pics they say speak for them self’s



the first target 10 shot group is 2 mags at 50 meters Berreta rear and front sight
the five shot group top of target is just the front sight changed back to the Norc originals rears stayed the same did not adjust them at all

#2 target is the next mag rear sight adjusted to bring down the group

the last 3 targets was 3 mags in a row at 50 meters/ seated /off a sand bag as fast as i could change them ..which is not very fast
bm59 rear sight /nork front...

For 70 bucks its well worth changing your rear sights ...
Just my 2 cents worth though
 
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Just received an email from Robert saying he still has lots of front and rear sights left :rockOn: and as frykasj stated he is on holidays until the 12th.

And I guess I will have to say thanks to Satain for the tip over at ### :(
 
So....I got my BM-59 sights a couple of weeks ago, and finally got them installed yesterday. They are definitely fine pieces, but ya know what? In comparison to the Italian sight parts, the Norinco didn't look so bad at all. The aperture on the Italian was properly centred and seems more carefully drilled and finished, and the adjustment markings were painted and a little sharper, but otherwise...

Of course this doesn't address possible problems with heat treating and wear on the Norc parts, assuming that's a concern. I also notice that the serrations on the 'ears' of the rifle receiver where the sight adjustment knobs make contact are a little rough, and there's nothing simple to do about that...I sprayed them with WD-40 and give them a bit of a wirebrushing to no effect [I thought they might be full of dried grease or something].

In short...I'm not sure that replacing the original Norinco rear sight group is something that really needs to be done, unless there is something clearly wrong with it. Possibly replacing the aperture would be worthwhile if it doesn't look good to you [mine didn't...my sight picture with the BM-59 aperture is an improvement] and it's cost effective if you are ordering parts from Brownell's [aperture piece is $11.25].

The 'Italian Connection' certainly IS cost effective, compared to ordering a full set of sight parts, or even just a couple of components from anywhere else...I don't mean to be discouraging anybody from dealing with Robert for his BM-59 sights.

That is all... [nope, haven't taken it to the range yet...maybe Tuesday or Wednesday...].
 
As well as the peep sight not drilled in the center of the aperature :confused: Alot of the Norinco sights have issues with the windage and elevation pinions getting stripped after using them a couple times....adjusting them back and forth and up and down turns them into a crap shoot in regards to a getting a repeatable adjustment .My Norinco shorty ones were not too bad but ordered a set from Robert anyhow.
This will be the 3rd set I have changed on my rifles becuase of it.
 
Tengoo said:
So....I got my BM-59 sights a couple of weeks ago, and finally got them installed yesterday. They are definitely fine pieces, but ya know what? In comparison to the Italian sight parts, the Norinco didn't look so bad at all. The aperture on the Italian was properly centred and seems more carefully drilled and finished, and the adjustment markings were painted and a little sharper, but otherwise...

Of course this doesn't address possible problems with heat treating and wear on the Norc parts, assuming that's a concern. I also notice that the serrations on the 'ears' of the rifle receiver where the sight adjustment knobs make contact are a little rough, and there's nothing simple to do about that...I sprayed them with WD-40 and give them a bit of a wirebrushing to no effect [I thought they might be full of dried grease or something].

In short...I'm not sure that replacing the original Norinco rear sight group is something that really needs to be done, unless there is something clearly wrong with it. Possibly replacing the aperture would be worthwhile if it doesn't look good to you [mine didn't...my sight picture with the BM-59 aperture is an improvement] and it's cost effective if you are ordering parts from Brownell's [aperture piece is $11.25].

The 'Italian Connection' certainly IS cost effective, compared to ordering a full set of sight parts, or even just a couple of components from anywhere else...I don't mean to be discouraging anybody from dealing with Robert for his BM-59 sights.

That is all... [nope, haven't taken it to the range yet...maybe Tuesday or Wednesday...].
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My norc aperture was way low off center.
When I would adjust for elevation, the windage screw on the other side would unscrew and sometimes pop off when firing.
After a few elevation adjustments the pinion wasn't even raising or lowering the aperture anymore :(

I bought a used M1A rear sight assembly and have had no problems whatsoever since installing them.

I have heard that there are Norinco M14 rear sight assemblies that work out of the box, I have not seen one yet lol Also, yes they may work out of the box at the start but........
 
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My Garand sights arrived yesterday from Roberto and I am very pleased with them....after cleaning the packing grease off they look like new.
Only took a couple weeks to get here from Italy , these are marked PB BM59 and are graduated up to 800 yards .
The white letters and numbers stand out very well .

Oh ya ...The " S " on the windage knob stands for Sinistra which means left in Italian...

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I found I needed to use the Norinco sight cover (for lack of a better term), because the Italian one was too tight and was causing no end of trouble.

Other than that, I'm very pleased.
 
Just got my BM59 rear sight a couple days ago. I originally replaced the Norinco rear sight with a Springfield Armory one and wasn't too impressed with them. No matter what I did I was never able to adjust the windage on them. I installed the BM59 sights and now I can properly adjust the windage if needed and the elevation is much improved. Also, they match the finish on my 305 better than the springfield ones, which were a little too dark.

Next time its sunny I'll try to get a picture.
 
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