Kriss Super V misfire!

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LarryHutton

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Recently bought this kriss super V .45 non-restricted, I maybe have 100rounds through it. Id say 50 or more of those were misfires. I'm stumped, I would eject the dude shell out and there seems to be a slight imprint on the cap, you can hear the gun click, so it leads me to believe its a problem with the firing pin??!? Maybe ammo is a problem? i bought 1000 rnd bulk, but cant see that many misfires!!!! Just wondering if anyone has had a problem with this gun, and if there is anything I can do to fix it, not really willing to send it back to wanstalls.
 
The Kriss Super-V is picky when it comes to ammunition. There's a short approved list, of which I seem to recall Lawman and American Eagle (though I did get roughly 1:10 light primer strikes with AE; none with Lawman). If you're using bulk, that's almost certainly the problem.
 
Its a solid system. Eats next to nothing, over sized, over weight, recoil is no less than any other sub gun or some carbines. I see it will catch on big in the MIL/LE circles..

No offence OP. It is a neat piece of kit and they run like a scalded dog in full auto(when they run).

TDC
 
its funny though, when I reused the dud shells with the slight imprint the second time it would fire... Kinda freaked me out though, not really sure if the shell was still cooking haha. Anyway thanks for the heads up, I'll try some lawman or ae:)
 
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LarryHutton said:
its funny though, when I reused the dud shells with the slight imprint the second time it would fire... Kinda freaked me out though, not really sure if the shell was still cooking haha. Anyway thanks for the heads up, I'll try some lawman or ae:)
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Yeah, not sure if it's a primer issue or what. The AE still gave me about one misfire in ten. Don't forget that reloads void your warranty (just a head's up). In addition to the Lawman (which again works 100% for me), this is the recommended ammunition for the Super-V:

• Federal American Eagle, .45 ACP, 230gr. FMJ
• Remington .45 ACP, 230gr. FMJ
• US Government MILSPEC .45 ACP, 230gr. FMJ (Olin Corp.)
• Remington .45 Auto, 230gr. Golden Saber HPJ
• Winchester, .45 ACP, 230gr. FMJ (White Box)
• Winchester, .45 ACP, 230gr. JHP, USA .45 ACP JHP
• Federal Premium, Personal Defense Low-Recoil, Hydra-Shok .45 ACP 165gr. JHP PD45H53H
 
Ya im not reloading, was just ejecting the misfires. And collecting them up off the ground after, cleaning them up and retrying them. Most of them would fire the second time around. It's just a pissoff. One shot, one misfire, another shot another misfire. Good practice I suppose though lol my arms were pretty sore the next day.And thanks again I'll be getting some lawmen for sure:)
 
LarryHutton said:
Ya im not reloading, was just ejecting the misfires. And collecting them up off the ground after, cleaning them up and retrying them. Most of them would fire the second time around. It's just a pissoff. One shot, one misfire, another shot another misfire. Good practice I suppose though lol my arms were pretty sore the next day.And thanks again I'll be getting some lawmen for sure:)
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Hard primers perhaps?

TDC
 
TDC said:
Its a solid system. Eats next to nothing, over sized, over weight, recoil is no less than any other sub gun or some carbines. I see it will catch on big in the MIL/LE circles..

No offence OP. It is a neat piece of kit and they run like a scalded dog in full auto(when they run).

TDC
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I don't understand what you mean by this???????????????

Perhaps I didn't read it correctly.

I was contemplating a pistol cal PDW and the vector is on the short list, yet I have read a handful of mixed reviews lately. Recoil magazine did a pretty good review of it and seemed to be void of the hype I usually get from Guns and Ammo lol.


This is actually the first I have heard of the light primer strike issue.
 
c0ntract said:
I don't understand what you mean by this???????????????

Perhaps I didn't read it correctly.

I was contemplating a pistol cal PDW and the vector is on the short list, yet I have read a handful of mixed reviews lately. Recoil magazine did a pretty good review of it and seemed to be void of the hype I usually get from Guns and Ammo lol.


This is actually the first I have heard of the light primer strike issue.
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The hard and fast of my post. The Kriss is an overpriced POS. It is fun to shoot when it works, and its an interesting design concept. However, it doesn't run very well, is admittedly picky about ammo and from my experience it does not produce any less recoil than a conventionally designed sub gun.

My experience involved both Kriss guns that were for rent. The first one would fail about every other round. The RO came by and took it away and brought me the other copy. It ran a lot better but still had a fair number of stoppages. When it did run in full auto it ran well, but so did/does an MP5 in auto or the P90. Neither of the later had any issues.

If you're looking for a sub gun, you need to evaluate what your intended role/purpose for the gun is. If you want a neat design and something different, the Kriss might be it. If you want a gun that runs without issue, the Kriss is not it. IMO, a great sub gun that works and maintains the compact format is the B&T TP9.

TDC
 
c0ntract said:
I was contemplating a pistol cal PDW and the vector is on the short list, yet I have read a handful of mixed reviews lately. Recoil magazine did a pretty good review of it and seemed to be void of the hype I usually get from Guns and Ammo lol.
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My Kriss Super-V is awesome. Fantastic to shoot and next to no recoil/muzzle climb. The only downside is that it can be occasionally picky about ammo. But otherwise very reliable and easy to clean and maintain.

TDC said:
The hard and fast of my post. The Kriss is an overpriced POS.
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You're such a killjoy TDC. ;)
 
8-900 rds through mine without a single FTF or ejection problem. I said to hell with the warranty, and ran nothing but Canadian BDX commercial reloads through mine.


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TDC said:
The hard and fast of my post. The Kriss is an overpriced POS. It is fun to shoot when it works, and its an interesting design concept. However, it doesn't run very well, is admittedly picky about ammo and from my experience it does not produce any less recoil than a conventionally designed sub gun.

My experience involved both Kriss guns that were for rent. The first one would fail about every other round. The RO came by and took it away and brought me the other copy. It ran a lot better but still had a fair number of stoppages. When it did run in full auto it ran well, but so did/does an MP5 in auto or the P90. Neither of the later had any issues.

If you're looking for a sub gun, you need to evaluate what your intended role/purpose for the gun is. If you want a neat design and something different, the Kriss might be it. If you want a gun that runs without issue, the Kriss is not it. IMO, a great sub gun that works and maintains the compact format is the B&T TP9.

TDC
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Thanks!

Actually your post was very helpful as the other two models I was considering were the TP9 and the BRS99.

My intended purpose is to have fun at the range. I am not really into shooting matches or playing commando, I am not an operator or some delta/seal wannabe... I just like shooting interesting guns. :D
 
Yeah SuperV is a neat gun, super cool design, but I think it's just gonna stay on the wall in the armory. The tavor tar21 on the other hand is my baby, I've put 2000 rounds through it and not one hiccup!! And i find the sound is so unique!! Ugh I get chills hahaha
 
blaxsun said:
My Kriss Super-V is awesome. Fantastic to shoot and next to no recoil/muzzle climb. The only downside is that it can be occasionally picky about ammo. But otherwise very reliable and easy to clean and maintain.



You're such a killjoy TDC. ;)
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Sorry, I prefer firearms that work without fail(for the most part, all machines fail) out of the box with any and all commercial ammo I feed it. I admit, I don't have a real soft spot for sub guns as they cost nearly as much as a traditional carbine to feed and with near zero benefit. Still a cool piece of kit.

simpleton said:
8-900 rds through mine without a single FTF or ejection problem. I said to hell with the warranty, and ran nothing but Canadian BDX commercial reloads through mine.

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Not to be rude, but 8-900 rounds is hardly definitive. When you have 5000 without issue then you can say its running like a champ.

TDC
 
I gotta say that the fire pin spring have not been break-even (too strong ), this happens to alot of European guns .
 
LarryHutton said:
its funny though, when I reused the dud shells with the slight imprint the second time it would fire... Kinda freaked me out though, not really sure if the shell was still cooking haha. Anyway thanks for the heads up, I'll try some lawman or ae:)
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when the shell imprints the primmer its a light strick which can be caused my 2 things

Weak spring (hammer ect)

Or Harder then normal primers (if you reload and use rifle primers that can happen allot)

Did you clean the firearm before shooting it can be caused by a bolt not seating all the way due to oil gummying up a firearm only a few firearms are shipped ready to fire.

I would try diffren't ammo and see if the problem goes away or not sometimes going through ammo a firearm hates can be a pain in the rear.
 
No I don't reload, and no actually I never cleaned it before use.... I had a similar problem with this mk22 with the light strikes. People said locktite this screw on the back of the gun but I was still getting light strikes. So I took the thing right apart, inspected the firing pin, and figured grinded just abit of this oblong hole on the pin, the firing pin would come out just a hair further than it was. Long story short that little gun shoots like a champ now! Over 4000 rounds through it and just a few stove pipes. So I figured this Super V was experiencing the same issues...... Looks a lot more complicated though and figured I'd consult some more experienced people on here. So yeah I think some higher grade ammo is the next step, and if not it will be a expensive wall ortiment haha
 
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