Rusted barrel on a brand new handgun??

CristianM

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I just received from a store, via mail, my order of a brand new M1911 Sig Sauer.

After opening the box, of course I examined the gun. And I found what seems to be rust inside the barrel grooves. I tried to carefully clean a small area inside a groove, I got a brownish mark on the patch but what seems to be rust didn't go away.

Please, have a look at the photos below and let me know your opinion. Is it rust? If it is, then I'll have to ask that store to either replace the gun or take it back and refund the money.

At the same time, the groove lands show black marks which, in my opinion, indicate that the gun had been fired. Would these come from factory test shots or they look too strong and actually show that more firing had been done with it? The first patches I ran through the barrel came out pretty dirty as well.

I will not name the store (at least not at this stage) for obvious reasons.

All photos were done after cleaning the barrel (just oil and patches) to make sure any possible storage grease was gone.

Thank you

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99% chance it is copper. Try a few patches with copper specific solvent.

Oil alone won't remove copper.

Yes most guns that I can think of have been test fired at the factory. I wouldn't want a gun that wasn't.
 
Looks suspiciously like copper fouling, but that's a hell of a lot of copper fouling (if that's what it is) for a brand-new gun that's (supposedly) only been test-fired at the factory.

It were me, I'd take it back to the dealer and see what they have to say.
 
Likely Copper. Soak the barrel with bore cleaner, some bronze brush passes, then oiled patches, and dry patches until patches runs clear. Rust looks different.


Looks suspiciously like copper fouling, but that's a hell of a lot of copper fouling (if that's what it is) for a brand-new gun that's (supposedly) only been test-fired at the factory.

It were me, I'd take it back to the dealer and see what they have to say.
 
Give the barrel a good shot of Wipe Out and let it stand a day or two, then tight patch
with some more Wipe Out to see results. If no more blue color comes out in patch and
bore passes inspection, lightly oil, then yer good to go.
 
Looks like oil that dried in the barrel... just clean it and it should come out

Use a solvant let it sit for a few mins pick the gun up and pull clean patchs through it and it should look nice and shiny
 
Not copper, not rust either. It's actually preservative, clean it with bore solvent and it'll vanish. Just put good bore solvent on a patch and push it through, no need to use a brush.

I think I agree with dried preseravtive, maybe fouling. I would just get out there with some ammo and giver!!

GC
 
Glad to hear it turned out. It looked a lot like tooling oil, from the manufacturing process, or a preservative. And yes, the gun has been fired before - at the factory range. All guns are tested before they leave, and in some cases the brass and target is shipped with the gun. The target so you can see how it shot, and the brass so you can turn it over to your local police to make it easier for them to mis-identify you as the shooter in any future crime . (sigh)
 
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