K98 Mauser Gun show find

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Well, I think I got lucky I think this morning finding this 147 K98k. JP Sauer?

Seller told me it was a Canadian Army vet bring back, and had been sitting in the house for some 60 years. Bore is pristine. Outside has some surface rust, but should easily cleaned up. Just goes to show that there are still some awesome finds out there in original (WW2) conditon tucked away. Either the gun was captued early in the war (Good barrel) or late and did not get used so much, and had a replacement bolt? I don't know. I guess we'll never know.

In 1938 the “S/147” code was changed “147”. The known serial number range of the “S/147” coded rifle is
from 1129 to 9849i. The known serial number range of the “147” coded rifle is from 9663g to 431s. There
was a combined total production run of 195,000 rifles. Weimar and Nazi type eagles continue to appear
together. Waffenamt numbers continue to be “214” and “359”. The entire year's production appears to have
gone to the Army. Solid Walnut stocks and handguards continue to be the norm but the use of laminate
stocks continues to grow. All metal parts continue to be milled and numbered to match the rifle.
During 1939 the Weimar type eagle was phased out. It appears that by the “k" serial number range Nazi style
eagles were being exclusively used. The Waffenamt numbers changed to “37” and “359”.
Stocks and handguards were almost all made of laminate. Sauer produced stocks can not
only be identified by their “214” and “37” waffenamts and also by the use of a smaller
diameter bolt takedown washer in the buttstock. Sauer made K98k's also use smaller
sized proof eagles (as compared to those used by the other manufacturer) on both the
barrels and the receivers. All metal parts continue to be milled and numbered to match
the rifle, and a l2.5 inch-cleaning rod replaced the 10-inch cleaning rod. Flat Buttplates continue to be used.
The known serial number range is from 2106 to 9278t for an estimated production run of 210,000 rifles.
Contract barrels begin to appear, (i.e. “Geco”, “exn”, and “bys” are known examples). ” The entire year's
production appears to have gone to the Army.

The bolt does not match, but it matches it's self. The whole gun is matching otherwise. I would assume that it was a battlefield repair/replace for the bolt as the stock matches perfectly as well. Even the screws match.

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Most likely scenario is that the vet picked this up at an arms dump when the Whermacht was being disarmed in May 1945. In those times, the bolts were in one pile, the rifles in another. GI's who wanted a war trophy picked a rifle and fumbled in the pile for any old bolt that looks serviceable.
 
Claven is absolutely correct. Most likely scenario. I absolutely love the bolt mismatches, and yours is an awesome example. You know this, but I just have to say for others reading your thread...be very careful cleaning this gem. Other than a touch of oil, I prefer to leave as is. That is history you brought home.
Thank you for showing, I believe you have made my day:D
 
I missed that one and the Havelock show last weekend. There is suppose to be another one at the arena in Havelock this weekend. (Back to back? Alright!) I think I can sneek out for that one.
 
Nice snag!

But this shows the one reason I don't like sauers too much. They polish the gun after bluing, which results in a thin blue and usually mostly worn off. But the original finish is niiiiice.
 
Most likely scenario is that the vet picked this up at an arms dump when the Whermacht was being disarmed in May 1945. In those times, the bolts were in one pile, the rifles in another. GI's who wanted a war trophy picked a rifle and fumbled in the pile for any old bolt that looks serviceable.

For some reason I find the possibility of a Canadian vet fumbling through a pile of captured or surrendered bolts unlikley. This bolt has the Waffenamt code "WaA214" stamped on it in no less than 7 places on the entire bolt assembly. which relates to "147 Sauer und Sohn Suhl 1938" which is exactly where this rifle is from. Unless.... back then this Infanteer knew to look precisely for that particular WaA to match up with the rifle out of several hundered different WaA#'s would be pretty amazing. I'm starting to think this bolt was issued as a replacement out of the factory.
 
Maybe, but who knows for sure. I am no expert. But I would believe this is a bolt mismatch from a surrendered rifle with the bolt picked up randomly from another pile, than it coming from the factory this way. Even with the same WaA. WaA 214 was used extensively through much the war.
At this early stage, prewar, I doubt a mismatched bolt would leave the factory like that. If another bolt was needed, it would have been appropriately serialed. And after it left the factory, if a new bolt was needed, the Company armourer would issued an unserialed bolt. Not to say if in the heat of battle, a soldier could easily swap out the entire bolt from a fallen comrade's rifle.
Enjoy that rifle, it is solid gold in my eyes:)

For some reason I find the possibility of a Canadian vet fumbling through a pile of captured or surrendered bolts unlikley. This bolt has the Waffenamt code "WaA214" stamped on it in no less than 7 places on the entire bolt assembly. which relates to "147 Sauer und Sohn Suhl 1938" which is exactly where this rifle is from. Unless.... back then this Infanteer knew to look precisely for that particular WaA to match up with the rifle out of several hundered different WaA#'s would be pretty amazing. I'm starting to think this bolt was issued as a replacement out of the factory.
 
Yes, armoured and depots were still numbering replacement parts well into the war. There's no way it left the factory like that. Short of it being a couple numbers off or a dyslexic stamper mixing the correct digits in the wrong order.
Lots of mismatched K98K end up with the right code bolt. Not sure how.
Also could have been put with the right bolt by a vet or civvy who knew more and traded to an incoming vet post war. Lots of possibilites but a 1938 sauer mixup isn't high on the list in my opinion.

Can you post pics of the bolt flats. Top, back, and bottom. 214 was only sauer early on, possible its from another factory. Like lubrecker.
 
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