HK SL8 or ACR?

deets said:
Am I the only one that thinks the SL8/G36 is ugly as sin? lol Ive shot the SL8 and didn't like the grip or the weight, but it was fairly accurate. Id say the Swiss arms is a better rifle and just as accurate if not more.
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Much like alot of other black rifles, its a love-it or hate-it thing.

I for one really like the look of it, especially in this configuration, which is what I'm aiming at putting together (no, they don't have it in a large size picture):

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Can't argue with you on the Swiss - it's an excellent rifle and very accurate.
 
Its not heavy at all with the 12.5" G36k barrel installed! :)

Blaxsun, I still havn't installed the Gen 2 Lower on my conversion, sitting in the box, next to the stock. This thread is sorta inspiring me to do it, maybe I'll put it together and snap some photos.
 
polskadude said:
Its not heavy at all with the 12.5" G36k barrel installed! :)

Blaxsun, I still havn't installed the Gen 2 Lower on my conversion, sitting in the box, next to the stock. This thread is sorta inspiring me to do it, maybe I'll put it together and snap some photos.
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Have you ever stripped the K barrel down? I'm looking for specs on the gas block hole location and the hole size.
 
Took me a while to figure out what I wanted for a non restricted gopher gun.

Played with my buddies Swiss Arms for a summer. Having built a few ARs with triggers like the Geissele High Speed and mainly shoot bolt guns with nice triggers, I found the Swiss Arm trigger just ok.

I certainly wanted better for a off bipod gopher gun.

Bought a SL-8 to play with. Same thing, trigger is ok. Then began my adventures in to pimping SL-8 into G36

I didn't care that you can't fire the rifle with the stock folded so I went with the HDPS stock block

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The HK hammer forged barrels are accurate, but having said that you can squeak better out of a well built AR if you wan't to spend the money on a good Noveske stainless, Krieger etc barrel. I picked up a spare SL-8 barrel and it was overpriced for what you are getting

The gun is not a good plinker since by the time you put ACOG etc it gets pretty heavy

Standard AR optics sit too high, even on the KAC scope base, which sucks since the HK can't share optics with my AR's

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There is no way I would be doing this if the SL-8 was restricted....far better value going with high end AR

For its intended purpose ( off bipod gopher gun ) it works fine

Have not played with ACR so can't compare
 
TRG-42 said:
Took me a while to figure out what I wanted for a non restricted gopher gun.

Played with my buddies Swiss Arms for a summer. Having built a few ARs with triggers like the Geissele High Speed and mainly shoot bolt guns with nice triggers, I found the Swiss Arm trigger just ok.

I certainly wanted better for a off bipod gopher gun.

Bought a SL-8 to play with. Same thing, trigger is ok. Then began my adventures in to pimping SL-8 into G36

I didn't care that you can't fire the rifle with the stock folded so I went with the HDPS stock block

SL8SB4.jpg


The HK hammer forged barrels are accurate, but having said that you can squeak better out of a well built AR if you wan't to spend the money on a good Noveske stainless, Krieger etc barrel. I picked up a spare SL-8 barrel and it was overpriced for what you are getting

The gun is not a good plinker since by the time you put ACOG etc it gets pretty heavy

Standard AR optics sit too high, even on the KAC scope base, which sucks since the HK can't share optics with my AR's

SL8aimpoint.jpg


There is no way I would be doing this if the SL-8 was restricted....far better value going with high end AR

For its intended purpose ( off bipod gopher gun ) it works fine

Have not played with ACR so can't compare
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Where did you get that conversion kit??? I want!
 
I managed to get my new SL8 out to the range the other day.

I have a 1-4X scope mounted - so not the greatest for squeezing the maximum accuracy out of a gun, but it's what I intend to use for coyote hunting on the farm.

My last set of three deliberate fire five round groups were just under 1" (I called one pulled shot on one string - the flyer took the group from under 3/4" out to about 1.75"). The rifle was happy with either TAP or Steel match 75 grain ammo.

This first test exceeds my expectations for the rifle.:dancingbanana:

I like the forward weight for target/distance work. The trigger is much much better than the one on my Armalite (20" HB, which is about a 2 MOA gun at best in its stock configuration). Unfortunately, the Armalite is a range only gun, and I cannot justify a series of upgrades to achieve its accuracy potential. It will soon be up for sale, I imagine.

I do intend to slap a higher powered scope on the rifle one day, and to work up some handloads, but am in no hurry considering the results I got.

Am I pleased? Yup. I wanted an accurate semi auto .223, that is fun to shoot, and a bit different. I definitely got all that. And despite many people's feelings to the contrary, I actually like the looks of the gun too. Call me weird.
 
I have some strong opinions on the SL8. Flame away. :p

I have an SL8-5 (black, long rail, vented fore).
I personally like the look of the rifle.
Accurate. Well built.
A bit on the heavy side.
I'm not crazy about so much plastic.
If you put a long bottom rail onto it and a MagPul AFG2 it handles much better.
Mine has the bottom rail, AFG2, short AR Riser to save the plastic top rail from ring clamp dents, Leupold Mark 3-9x40 T2 .223 BD, HK Sling.

I wouldn't do the mag well hack, it isn't worth it.
You'll hack up the SL8 and its value will drop significantly.
I would never buy one that has been hacked up for the mag well adapter.
If you don't want to pay for the HK original mags, just buy some of the Spear NZ SL8 magazines. Available in 5/10 or 5/30, clear or black fiber reinforced poly, ~$45 from Wolverine. And the Spear mags are better built than the crappy ASC LAR-15 mags that you would use with the mag well adapter (I stopped using ASC LAR-15 mags in my XCR-L and switched to only RA XCR branded ones because they are built so much better).
And if it is 5 vs 10 rounds you are worried about, does it really take you that long to swap a mag?

Hacking an SL8 into a G36-wannabe is a waste. Especially for the high price.
And you don't end up with a G36 (posers).
It's like saying "Look, I put some AR-15 parts onto my .22 and now I have an AR-15!".
If you want an SL8, get an SL8 and leave it as an SL8.
Most of the bastardized SL8G36 look terrible in my opinion and are a huge waste of money. :puke:
If I was throwing that kind of money around I would just get something else/better.

Personally, I prefer my XCR-L over my SL8-5 by a large margin (much more fun to just throw lead down-range), but the scoped SL8 is good for shooting 100-300yd paper with decent accuracy.
 
deegee said:
I wouldn't do the mag well hack, it isn't worth it.
You'll hack up the SL8 and its value will drop significantly.
I would never buy one that has been hacked up for the mag well adapter.
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The NEA magwell is a drop-in replacement. Pull the retaining pin on the original magwell, remove magwell, use retaining pin to retain new magwell. Done.

At least, if the parts fit right that's how it goes. Mine needed some file work to get it to go on.

Most people from what I understand don't have problems.
 
BenL said:
Much like alot of other black rifles, its a love-it or hate-it thing.

I for one really like the look of it, especially in this configuration, which is what I'm aiming at putting together (no, they don't have it in a large size picture):

4e70bc6c05bd3.jpg


Can't argue with you on the Swiss - it's an excellent rifle and very accurate.
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WOW that really updates the look of that SL8! I actually like it. It looks less cumbersome with out the full length top rail. Still all the parts to get it to look like that are quite costly im sure. I would love to see a side by side comparison with a NR ACR. Still, I would really consider getting an SL8 if it came like that from factory because I know a few friends that are very happy with theirs.
 
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