Best target practice ammo for Remington 700 5R?

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Hi everyone. Entering the world of precision shooting with a Remington 700 R5 that I'm getting this weekend. What is the best factory ammo to use for target practice for a .308 newbie? Distance would be 200 yards max., I'm guessing.

I'm well aware that hand loads are best, but I can't finance a reloading system yet. So I'm interested in hearing what brand of .308 I should start with to develop my basic shooting skills with the R5, thanks!
 
Get a case of 200 Nosler 165 gr 308 Accubond, i shoot them in my rifle and it is a 3/8 inch group ammo very constantly... JP.
 
Well, the best factory ammo you could feed it would be Federal Gold Medal Match with 175 g SMK ( more likely you will find FGMM with 168 in most stores but get the 175 if you can ). Hornaday match is also good and a little less expensive.
 
I went through 700 rounds of Federal Gold Medal Match in the last 10 months. If you're serious about this hobby get into reloading immediately... the cost of the factory ammo I bought could have paid for a reloading setup. I've just bought my reloading gear, and now I have a ton of brass I can use. As I plan to go through at least double that amount in the next 12 months the reloading setup will pay for itself.

My 700P routinely shot 0.75 or better with FGMM... my used custom rifle I bought will do 0.5 or better every time with the FGMM.
 
I went through 700 rounds of Federal Gold Medal Match in the last 10 months. If you're serious about this hobby get into reloading immediately... the cost of the factory ammo I bought could have paid for a reloading setup. I've just bought my reloading gear, and now I have a ton of brass I can use. As I plan to go through at least double that amount in the next 12 months the reloading setup will pay for itself.

My 700P routinely shot 0.75 or better with FGMM... my used custom rifle I bought will do 0.5 or better every time with the FGMM.

Yea, I'm starting to see the inevitable logic of reloading. I appreciate all the advice on which factory ammo has worked best for the R5, and I'll certainly be using it for now. Guess I should start saving for a reloading set up.
 
Hi everyone. Entering the world of precision shooting with a Remington 700 R5 that I'm getting this weekend. What is the best factory ammo to use for target practice for a .308 newbie? Distance would be 200 yards max., I'm guessing.

I'm well aware that hand loads are best, but I can't finance a reloading system yet. So I'm interested in hearing what brand of .308 I should start with to develop my basic shooting skills with the R5, thanks!

Factory ammo means that the ammo will be made to an overall length of 2.80" or less (so that it will fit in any .308Win rifle out there). This means that the manufacturer has *no* flexibility to play with the seating depth of the bullet in order to improve accuracy (this is one of the two main tuning "levers" a handloader gets to work with).

Another fact is that factory Remington .308Win rifles tend to have rather long throats, so most magazine-length ammo will therefore have a fair bit of "jump" before the bullet engages the rifling.

To make the best of these facts, choose factory match ammo that uses a bullet that is known to be quite _insensitive_ to bullet jump.

The Sierra 168 Matchking is one of the best bullets in this regard (it has minuses of its own too, but since you are shooting at less than 800 yards this will not affect you for now). Unfortunately the factory ammo that uses this bullet tends to be pretty pricey, but there you have it. This bullet is loaded in Federal Gold Medal Match. Any other factory match ammo that uses the Sierra 168 HPBT should also serve your purposes well (I think Black Hills uses it; I'm not sure if "Winchester Ranger" uses the Sierra 168HPBT or if it is a 168HPBT made by Winchester).

The Sierra 175 Matchking is also very good in this regard; ammo loaded with it will work just as well for you as the 168MK, but the 175s can be pricier and they will giver you no advantage at 600 yards and closer.

Hornady makes two lines of match bullets. Their "HPBT" line is a bit fussier than the Sierras, and their "Amax" line is quite a bit fussier than the Sierras. If you can't get Sierra-bulleted factory match ammo, choose Hornady "HPBT" before you choose Hornady "Amax". Don't get me wrong, the Amax is a fine bullet - it's just that it usually needs more tuning in order to get it to shoot accurately, and if you are using factory ammo you don't get to do tuning.

Other very high quality very high performance match bullets can be even fussier, and are therefore to be avoided in your application.

Do save your brass. If you end up handloading eventually, you'll have good brass that was only fired in your rifle. If not, you have once-fired brass that you can give or sell to somebody else.
 
Lapua makes very top-end match ammo used by CISM and other winning shooters. A benefit is that you end up with the best brass.

However, we have promoted reloading since 1994, for reasons stated many times.

Regards,

Peter
 
Peter, that Lapua 170gr ammo we were shooting at 500m on Tuesday shot brilliantly out of the two rifles we were using (both of which had match barrels and good custom target or tactical chambers). How well do you suppose it would shoot out of a factory Remington chamber (long and sloppy)?
 
Daniel, just as well as any other ammo and probably better. Of course the only test is to try different types. At the CISC we were shooting Lapua sniper ammo; 170 grain FMJBT at 2850 fps out of a Sam Adams bulit Rem 700 AI chassis. Our other rifle was a PGWDTI Coyote.

It was more than neat to see the POI on the screen as detected by your acoustic targeting system, which was the hit of the show. V at the target info makes this more interesting. Snipers immedatly began to speak of spotter trainingg, as they coiuld call shot and then immediatly see accuracy. .
 
Hornady match ammo 168g BTHB

+ 1 for these....
Just came back from the range... 100m Five shots make one big hole from a harris bipod with no sand bag on the rear... The hole is 3/4 inch wide at the widest part....So around .45MOA Three shots group are under 1/2 inch outside to outside... So around .25moa Could probably do better on a benchrest or with a sand bag but I'm pretty happy and find it more challenging to shoot from my crappy bipod without a sandbag.... I had a pretty good day ...

I tried hornady superperformance 165gr, 168gr Amax, Remington Premier scirocco bounded, MFS and bellier selliot ans my rifle prefer hornady match 168gr BTHB.... I was pretty surprise with the MFS (12$/box)..... Consistent 1moa.... But clean your gun after shooting those.... They are pretty messy.... non-reloadable brass and not the best for accuracy.... But half price if you want....
 
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Seriously ? A 3/8 inch group is 7.88mm and the WBSF (World Benchrest Shooting Federation) lists the record as being 13.39mm at 300 Yards shot in 1997 by E. Arenzi.

And he does it with with a takedown rifle shooting unsorted hornadys :)

As peterdobson and rmbrashooter have said, go with lapua's if you could afford it, I would personally go with the 155grain AMAX loads from the DCRA. A friend of mine had some good results shooting it and prices were reasonable for factory match ammo.
 
And he does it with with a takedown rifle shooting unsorted hornadys :)

As peterdobson and rmbrashooter have said, go with lapua's if you could afford it, I would personally go with the 155grain AMAX loads from the DCRA. A friend of mine had some good results shooting it and prices were reasonable for factory match ammo.

I would say .... Try a lot of different ammo.... Do groups of 5 and pick the best for your rifle... For my 5r. Hornady match 168gr BTHB are the best one.... Didn't try lapua but tried federal gold... And a 24$ box worked better for me... Until I start reloading!!
 
Good idea to start with the FGMM - cost will provide you an incentive to start reloading and the target will provide a benchmark as to the effectiveness of your reloading. Shot them out of two different 5Rs, worked well in both, and generally easily available.

Though obviously not in the Berger / Sierra league, the Hornady SSTs also fly very well from the 5R in handloads (at least to 300 yards, range max).
 
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