.22 l . Does it even exist ?
- Thread starter Dagmaar
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Yes, it is very true. My 8 year old boy is using a Henry mini Bolt 22 and the LR's make quite a snap, the short a little less, and with the CCI CB Long's the loudest noise is the bolt and firing pin. They are quite fun to use for grouse hunting!
At home he uses cheap LR ammo as he is now shooting a lot, once we head out for birds, he switches to the CB Longs, they kill cleanly, don't mess up the bird if he hits too low and catches the breast, and are silent as all get out!
If the bullet has the same weight and bearing surface and the powder charge is the same - then out of the same FA, there should be no difference in gas pressure and the containment of the gas by the projectile thus the same noise level .
The CB Long is a very slow round, much slower than a standard short, they also make CB Shorts, so I have no idea why they ever bothered with the CB Long, other than you can use it in actions that do not like the shorts...
Last time I saw 22l, they were significantly more expensive than lr. Novel to try I suppose, but I couldn't find a valid reason for me to pay the premium. Sounds like noise may be a reason to go that way. The Remington Subsonics are noticeably quieter than the other lr they make.
Having lived in New Zealand for a while.... I've owned suppressed .22s and a suppressed .308Win. (sold the suppressors and the .308 before returning to Canada) If you fire a .22 subsonic LR round out of a suppressed .22 (whether it's screwed on or slide-on suppressor) you hear a small pop from the shot, but my 10-22 made more noise cycling the bolt. Put a polymer bolt stop in the receiver, and most of the noise is from the bolt closing. .22 shorts out of a suppressed rifle, you can shoot indoors without hearing protection - the loudest noise is from the bullet hitting the target.
.22 shorts out of a log barrelled "free rifle" with a big heavy barrel, and you hear a "ping" when the firing pin spring releases and a little 'pop' from the shot.
Centrefire rifles with suppressors (yes, you can buy a fully suppressed centrefire hunting rifle in gunshops in New Zealand, and you can then hunt without wrecking your hearing and without needing hearing protection.), you get the supersonic crack of the bullet going down range, and a loud, high-pitched wheeze as the gases escape the suppressor.
At least - that's my experience. Shooting on a 1000 metre range beside a guy using a 6mm suppressed rifle was certainly different "Crack-wheeze" then the echo from the supersonic wave bouncing back from the target...
.22 shorts out of a log barrelled "free rifle" with a big heavy barrel, and you hear a "ping" when the firing pin spring releases and a little 'pop' from the shot.
Centrefire rifles with suppressors (yes, you can buy a fully suppressed centrefire hunting rifle in gunshops in New Zealand, and you can then hunt without wrecking your hearing and without needing hearing protection.), you get the supersonic crack of the bullet going down range, and a loud, high-pitched wheeze as the gases escape the suppressor.
At least - that's my experience. Shooting on a 1000 metre range beside a guy using a 6mm suppressed rifle was certainly different "Crack-wheeze" then the echo from the supersonic wave bouncing back from the target...
