Norinco JW20 take down .22lr

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i have the browning SA .22 lr made in belgium 1968. i have seen these Norinco JW20's, i understand they are made in China and are much less expensive, but i wondered as to how dependable , accurate and durable the JW20 is?

my browning is perfect, not a scratch. i love that lil 22. i love it too much to carry through the bush and risk scratching (sad but true) and so i thought maybe one of these Norinco's could substitute for the non-range days.

any feedback on these would be much appreciated as i dont' wanna waste the cash if they are nothing but headaches.

cheers
 
My brother bought two of them, years ago, from SIR.

Finish was OK. Internal finish, rough, but functional.

Biggest problem was a sharp edge on the chamber, shaving chunks off the bullet as it fed. Occasionally jammed on the bullet, if it cut to deep.

Simple fix was to polish up the edge of the chamber so it didn't cut into the bullet.

I radiused the edge with a battery powered fish hook sharpener, because that was what I had available at the time.
A Dremel, or similar tool, and a light touch, and you'd be in business, if this problem is still a problem. Or some sandpaper and a small stick of wood, or a pencil.

One, of the two, after several thousand rounds, has had the extractor lose one of the hooks. It got a Browning extractor, as that was what I was able to find, and it has worked since. The Browning part did not require any fitting.

Wood finish was pretty decent, as was the metal exterior finish. It was pretty crude looking internally, with not a lot of fine finish anywhere it did not actually need it to work.

For the money at the time ($120-ish), they were a great buy.

That's my experience with them.

Cheers
Trev
 
awesome, thanks for that feedback. i kind of expected that they would be "crude" copies, but functionality is more my concern and i dont' have any reservation about making a few minor refinements on my own.
 
Sold two new ones through my shop.
Had to rework both of them to keep them sold.
Didn't try to sell any more, didn't need the hassle of having to work over a new gun to get it working properly.
Maybe current ones are better.
 
Got out to the range for a function test on mine this weekend.

Liked it. Nice to handle although you have to watch hand placement when firing.
 
They eject downward, in front of the trigger. Hot brass up the sleeve throws you off a wee bit.
Nothing more complicated than that.

Accuracy? The two I dealt with were adequate. Never went to the range with either, nor did either get glass attached. Good walking around type grouse and rabbit gun for open sight use.

If you want Olympic accuracy, buy an Anshutz match gun. :)

I could see these being a PITA for a dealer, but for someone willing and able to putter about with them, pretty good value for the buck.

Cheers
Trev
 
ya the bottom ejection takes a bit to get used to for sure, however since i own and have put many rounds through my browning SA 22 i don't forsee this being an issue. was just wanting something "cheap" to fire and light to pack and easy to takedown.

again i'll post once i put a few hundred rounds through it. expect it to be here late this week.
 
Ok, here's the deal....it arrived first thing this morning (of course not BEFORE a long weekend), had a couple hours to kill. Unpacked it, had to spend the better part of an hour cleaning the packing oil, grease etc etc from it. That's fine, i'm one of those that enjoys the cleaning/tinkering part of the sport. So that's ONE takedown as it came assembled.

Took it out, fired EXACTLY 20 rounds through it. Had an issue with first round not feeding both times (no biggie, made a mental note that a light filing of the feeder may be required once i got home). Was very impressed with how accurate it was right away, this thing sited in at 25/50 yards really well, probably better than my Browning SA22 which i have owned since i was a kid.

Ok here we go, i took it apart,(that's TWO takedowns) put the trigger lock on it, put it in the hardcase for transport home. Got home, and when i went to put it back together for storage in the safe, the stock CRACKED in 2 places, right where it meets the receiver and behind the trigger assembly. Now i have taken my Browning apart a hundred times and put it back together so this is NOT a new thing for me. I didnt' do anything differently or apply any additional pressure when assembling.

So since i made this purchase as "new" from a highly reputable Dealer that i read about on CGN (all reviews were sparkling) i called them. I explained EXACTLY how this went down. Well much to my shock i was somewhat blown off, as if it's not their problem and that Norinco probably wouldn't back this. At this point i have sent pics to the Dealer and will await their response. For the time being they shall remain nameless as i believe in giving them the benefit of the doubt and letting them investigate. I'll keep this updated if and when there's any change in my story. Whether this was $200 or $2000 i don't think 2 takedowns should be an issue for a new gun that was designed to do just that.

meanwhile i suppose i shall start to search for a replacement stock in case my problem isn't solved by the Dealer/Norinco.

Would i recommend this gun.....???? Ill have to let ya know.


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extremely cheap wood on these SA22 copies mine broke same place. also they double feed like a #####. get the real deal, mine was a let down aswell. is yours the newer with the threaded barrel?
 
crosman177 said:
extremely cheap wood on these SA22 copies mine broke same place. also they double feed like a #####. get the real deal, mine was a let down aswell. is yours the newer with the threaded barrel?
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it is the newer with the treaded barrel yes. also i DO own a Browning SA 22, i got this one as a bush beater/back packer. i knew going into it that it was cheap all round, quality, finish etc etc and didn't expect it to be anywhere close to the real deal. that being said.....20 rounds??? 20???? with 2 takedowns......c'mon.....and if the dealer hadn't been so non-chalant with me when i called (like it's not HIS problem & he'll never find a replacement stock for it) and showed a bit of compassion/customer respect, then i'm sure i would never have started this post even......strange thing is every time this dealer is mentioned on this site, people rave on the customer service......surely is NOT my experience.

i have taken to fixing the stock on my own as i'm sure that i wont' be hearing anything positive back anytime soon. so i got some gorilla epoxy, drilled a pilot hole 3/4" long right in the middle of the cracks, split open the crack with toothpicks, used a pin to push the epoxy into the crack, filled the drilled hole with epoxy, covered a stainless screw in epoxy and screwed it into the hole to attempt to "pin" it back together and alleviate anymore cracking. clamped it and let it set up, then lopped off the screw head and ground it down flush, not the prettiest but functional.

gonna take it out this weekend and bang a few off, i might even add a scratch or 2 just because......ha....cheers
 
good luck pal. mine has Browning parts inside it, previous owner damaged internals and replaced it. i recently bought a Remington SA22short an older model and this one functions like a top and the take down is on the side you do not have to fiddle with the bolt and release and potentially damage internals.
 
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