Mossberg 930 guys please help...

cbabes said:
I have noticed most top shooters choose the M2 over the M4. Is there a reason other than price?
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Much better handling and sight configuration, the glowing bead on a vent rib found on the M2 Field beats the heck out of the M4's "busy" ghost rings for shooting shot at speed.

Add a rear sight to the vent rib and it'll give up nothing on long slug shots either.

Also, you can find much longer magazine extensions for the M2 than the M4.
 
the judge said:
Are Mossberg 930's with short barrels (18") even available? I haven't seen them anywhere. I saw one pop up on the EE this morning but the mag tube mod done on it didn't do anything for me.
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Yes. There's at least two models available with 18.5" barrels and I believe you can also get a combo package with short, plain barrel and long hunting one.

What don't you like about the extension? I've got the same one on my 930 that the EE one has.

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cbabes said:
I have noticed most top shooters choose the M2 over the M4. Is there a reason other than price?
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Aside from the very good points already mentioned, weight is another one. The M2 is also lighter than the M4.

Also, the M2 is recoil operated, the M4 is gas operated. Despite the fact that I myself have no experience (yet) the arguments I have read/studied for Recoil vs Gas operation is based on those who shoot hundreds of rounds in a day in 3 gun competition. Even though the Gas operations is supposed to run cleaner, fouling has been in issue in Gas guns.

I did alot of reading and research before making my choice as I do not give my money away easily or take money choices lightly and I chose the M2 over the M4.

Time will tell whether I made a good choice or not, but I feel pretty confident in it.

Here is my 930 btw :)

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In shooting config:

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Thanks for the responses on the M2 fellas!

Here is another option for the 18.5". It's the 930 Roadblocker. The brake is ugly but it works. Puts you in open division though. It is easily removed as it's one pin and threaded...

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Jerry Miculek actually uses the big ugly brake but then again he is sponsored by Mossberg so I take that with a grain of salt. My experience is it does make follow up shots easier...

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cbabes QUOTED:Thanks for the responses on the M2 fellas!
Jerry Miculek actually uses the big ugly brake but then again he is sponsored by Mossberg so I take that with a grain of salt. My experience is it does make follow up shots easier...


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Mmmm sort of - not really.

Not as effective as it appears it could.

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After testing different load outs it was disappointing. I was hoping for a neutral recoil. But it was not the case.

Its a great conversation piece at the gun club however.

IMO/shooting experience, the weight of the thing is more effective than the sum of its design which was really ment for a longer powder burn of a 50cal.

What works very well on the 930 is the recoil absorption system thats built in the stock. The drawback to it is that the LOP is 14" And for women and guys that wear tac vests like I do on 3 gun events - the LOP is far too long. Ive ordered another 930 stock that actually has a higher comb which I am going to cut down and mod the recoil system inside it so it will fit me with a 12" LOP
 
sendmorebrains said:
cbabes QUOTED:Thanks for the responses on the M2 fellas!
Jerry Miculek actually uses the big ugly brake but then again he is sponsored by Mossberg so I take that with a grain of salt. My experience is it does make follow up shots easier...


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Mmmm sort of - not really.

Not as effective as it appears it could.

DSC06768.jpg

DSC03002.jpg


After testing different load outs it was disappointing. I was hoping for a neutral recoil. But it was not the case.

Its a great conversation piece at the gun club however.

IMO/shooting experience, the weight of the thing is more effective than the sum of its design which was really ment for a longer powder burn of a 50cal.

What works very well on the 930 is the recoil absorption system thats built in the stock. The drawback to it is that the LOP is 14" And for women and guys that wear tac vests like I do on 3 gun events - the LOP is far too long. Ive ordered another 930 stock that actually has a higher comb which I am going to cut down and mod the recoil system inside it so it will fit me with a 12" LOP
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LOL We do disagree on a bunch of things. :cheers: Many agree the brake is ugly but it does work. Personally I can take it or leave it. The weight doesn't bother me but I have been a gym rat my whole life.
 
Jamie said:
oh i dont own one....yet

I shoot close to 3000rds a month ( pistol 1500 rds,rifle 800,shotgun 200 and 22lr 500) its good to have a sponsor buying my ammo I got to work on my shotgun skills more its my weak link
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Free ammo! I envy you!!! LOL!

A couple of tips for better shotgunning...

Whatever shotgun you do choose make sure it points where you are looking, as the secret to fast, accurately placed shots (moving or stationary targets) with a smoothbore is gun fit. If you raise the gun to your shoulder/face and then have to shift your head around to align sights on target it doesn't fit and that will cost you time as well as casue discomfort after even a few rounds. Wood stocks are easier to alter than plastic ones and the traditional stock design is faster/more natural pointing than the "tactical' pistol grip models. A vent rib barrel with bead sight is also faster than open or ghost ring sights and inside of 100yds won't dis-advantage you in terms of slug accuracy. Always keep both eyes open, your head on the stock and focus on the target. Also, like everything else...practice makes perfect!
 
Have a 930 used for skeet. Round count 9000. Pusher Assembly legs snapped off. The first part failure so far and a classic example of a manufacturing short cut. That part really should be solid aluminum or steel, not plastic with aluminum legs.
But it would cost more and they obviously chose not to do it.

Still pleased with it considering what I paid for it.
Replacement part is on the way. If that's the only part that fails every 9000 I'll be happy.
 
TACTICAL111 said:
Have a 930 used for skeet. Round count 9000. Pusher Assembly legs snapped off. The first part failure so far and a classic example of a manufacturing short cut. That part really should be solid aluminum or steel, not plastic with aluminum legs.
But it would cost more and they obviously chose not to do it.

Still pleased with it considering what I paid for it.
Replacement part is on the way. If that's the only part that fails every 9000 I'll be happy.
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Was I just talking to you yesterday at OSGC?
 
cbabes said:
LOL We do disagree on a bunch of things. :cheers: Many agree the brake is ugly but it does work. Personally I can take it or leave it. The weight doesn't bother me but I have been a gym rat my whole life.
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Compared to if there was no brake?
The brake was never designed for that type of blast. It was set up for a .50 cal which has much longer powder burn hence higher muzzle velocity. The slots in the brake are far to large for 12 gauge to effectively induce a neutral recoil.

I put rounds thru the 930 - the MP-A - the Benelli M4 - The Ithaca M37 - The 870 with Winchester no. 7 ammo. over 150 rounds + one afternoon and found no significant changes with the 930 brake compared to the other shotguns that i own.

Is there something I may have missed ?

As far as the weight thing - Its not a heavy weight as you have misunderstood, its weight to reduce felt recoil hence the barrel does not flip up as high if there was no weight on the front.
 
sendmorebrains said:
Compared to if there was no brake?
The brake was never designed for that type of blast. It was set up for a .50 cal which has much longer powder burn hence higher muzzle velocity. The slots in the brake are far to large for 12 gauge to effectively induce a neutral recoil.

I put rounds thru the 930 - the MP-A - the Benelli M4 - The Ithaca M37 - The 870 with Winchester no. 7 ammo. over 150 rounds + one afternoon and found no significant changes with the 930 brake compared to the other shotguns that i own.

Is there something I may have missed ?

As far as the weight thing - Its not a heavy weight as you have misunderstood, its weight to reduce felt recoil hence the barrel does not flip up as high if there was no weight on the front.
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Yes maybe you did miss something. We done disagreeing now? ;)
 
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