Muzzle devise to quit a .223

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I'm looking at buying my first AR-15 or .223 rifle.
From what I know silencers are prohibited but what muzzle breaks/ flash hiders help with noise? I've seen a few vids saying that some hiders actually make the gun louder.
Thanks for your time!!!!!
 
I'm already wearing plugs and muffs over those. I was thinking along the same lines Blaxson!
Something like the Flaming Pig or ATRS Eliminator. Something that throws the sound forward!
Any other ideas?
 
little_airwolf said:
I'm already wearing plugs and muffs over those. I was thinking along the same lines Blaxson!
Something like the Flaming Pig or ATRS Eliminator. Something that throws the sound forward!
Any other ideas?
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Ditto. I think any kind of brake is going to be potentially louder than your average flash hider, so the only other device I could think of is the Ares Effin-A (which you can tune/adjust).
 
From what I understand, you want to look at which way the muzzle device directs the blast. A break normally directs the blast backwards to reduce recoil and thus makes it loader, especially for those next to you. A flash hider usually directs out the sides. A device like the flaming pig directs everything forward, which is its main purpose, for short barreled rifles in closed environments.
 
Mirk said:
From what I understand, you want to look at which way the muzzle device directs the blast. A break normally directs the blast backwards to reduce recoil and thus makes it loader, especially for those next to you. A flash hider usually directs out the sides. A device like the flaming pig directs everything forward, which is its main purpose, for short barreled rifles in closed environments.
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And based on what length/style you buy this is how you should make your choice for sure. None of which you can own here will make anything quieter per say for sure, all louder if anything :) It's about function overall, it's a gun :)
 
Run a thread protector (no muzzle device). I can shoot my 338 Lapua without hearing protection without my ears ringing (one or two shots when hunting) if I remove the muzzle brake. When the brake is on I wouldn't even think about it.

Other than that any device that only vents forward will be your best option.

If you are wearing plugs and muffs and that isn't enough maybe you need a pellet gun, unless maybe you only shoot indoors in which case it could be very loud.

Maybe a .22LR conversion?
 
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Buy one with a 20 inch barrel and a muzzle device that directs gasses away from you.

Oh ya, and edit post is your friend and go advanced if needed.
A welded in plug will quit a 223 :kickInTheNuts:
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Run a thread protector (no muzzle device). I can shoot my 338 Lapua without hearing protection without my ears ringing (one or two shots when hunting) if I remove the muzzle brake. When the brake is on I wouldn't even think about it.
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That is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA! A 338 Lapua produces about 168 - 170 dB at the muzzle without a brake. That will seriously damage your hearing in only a few shots. By the time you hear ringing, the damage has already been done and that damage is cumulative. I highly recommend you do not continue to do this and def do not recommend others do it. :(
 
Suputin said:
That is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA! A 338 Lapua produces about 168 - 170 dB at the muzzle without a brake. That will seriously damage your hearing in only a few shots. By the time you hear ringing, the damage has already been done and that damage is cumulative. I highly recommend you do not continue to do this and def do not recommend others do it. :(
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I don't find it much louder than my 308 as long as the brake is off and you are in open area. With the brake it is very loud, even with plugs in.
I appreciate your concern and am not recommending anyone do anything, I'm only trying to illustrate how much of a difference it makes taking off the brake.
The OP wants to know how to reduce noise from a rifle that normally comes with a muzzle device, and removing it or replacing it with one that directs gasses away from the shooter makes a huge difference.
I've only shot it like that without plugs 4 or 5 times, it's not a regular thing.
Thanks again though. (I am NOT being sarcastic, Thank you)
 
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You sure about that?
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100% ATF classifies any muzzle device that produces 3 dB or more sound reduction as a silencer. The XM177 brake was specifically designed to reduce the noise of the short barreled carbine down to that of the full length rifle. The real muzzle device has a series of internal baffles. There are fake lookalikes that do not include the internal baffles and do not reduce sound level and thus are legal.


I don't find it much louder than my 308 as long as the brake is off and you are in open area. With the brake it is very loud, even with plugs in.
I appreciate your concern and am not recommending anyone do anything, I'm only trying to illustrate how much of a difference it makes taking off the brake.
The OP wants to know how to reduce noise from a rifle that normally comes with a muzzle device, and removing it or replacing it with one that directs gasses away from the shooter makes a huge difference.
I've only shot it like that without plugs 4 or 5 times, it's not a regular thing.
Thanks again though. (I am NOT being sarcastic, Thank you)
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A 338 is only about 3 dB louder than a 308, which is plenty loud enough to damage your hearing. A friend of mine has lost all his high end hearing as a result of not wearing hearing protection while hunting. I was shocked at how bad his hearing is in that range. One day he was driving and the squeeling from his worn out brakes was so piercing it made me want to gouge out my eyes. He couldn't hear it at all and had no idea his brakes were completely shot.

Sound that loud can and will damage your hearing.
 
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