Should I buy a NEA AR?

there is a thread up right now about knights arms being the same.... either they wont do it, or you have to go through the import export process at your own cost

Wrong.

We look after the warranty for you if the KAC product is imported by us and purchased through one of our dealers.

If you went through a third party, then you'd better make sure they have the paperwork and will support you.

If you got it shipped illegally by a US dealer you fubar'd as you can't apply for import export permits after the fact.



I can hit past 250 just fine with my NEA and norinco on irons and a holo... and when I pick up a buddies noveske or lmt i dont suddenly get more accurate or more reliable...


This is a Norc. I purchased as part of building a collection of a variety of rifles.

My KAC, Cadex, DD, LMT don't flake, nor do the VLTOR, Noveske, PSA, CORE and other brands we carry, use and own.

There is a reason for the price, and once you handle a large number of rifle it's easy to see why.

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There's a difference between having and needing a warranty.....

Bingo.

A lifetime replacement warranty sounds great. I would much rather not have to use a warranty. Customer service is great, but once again, I would rather not need it.

At NSCC this year, we got drowned during the zeroing walk back. A scope with a great warranty fogged up. It was replaced by courier, delvered right to the DCRA office at Connaught within two days. Great service. But the scope was fogged for two days of competition. And a replacement scope has to be zeroed. How do you do that during matches?
 
I agree. Most of these threads go from constructive to dogpile in a hurry and they serve no purpose other than keeping us blackriflers entertained! :)

Not exactly true, I am sure that at least one CGN member has been saved a lot of messing around with a POS NEA rifle by these threads. I know this because I would have bought one if not for reading about them here.
 
Not exactly true, I am sure that at least one CGN member has been saved a lot of messing around with a POS NEA rifle by these threads. I know this because I would have bought one if not for reading about them here.
Whew! Well that was close then! :D
What I was trying to say was that constructive discussion (both postive and negative)=GOOD, dogpile=ENTERTAINMENT.
 
Whew! Well that was close then! :D
What I was trying to say was that constructive discussion (both postive and negative)=GOOD, dogpile=ENTERTAINMENT.

It sure was a close call. The scrap aluminum bin at work is almost full. If I put one more thing in it I will have to empty it.
 
You have an AR : the Norinco so ...
Now if you want to step up, then buy a 308 AR or learn on the 308 and buy a Norinco M305 A or B or S (I'm still waiting for the C).
At last if you want to really step up with the 223, maybe try the sig Green or Black special.
 
the difference between a 700 norinco, and a 3500$ noveske is not as much as oyu would hope... both guns will outshoot 99% of the people on here...

I can hit past 250 just fine with my NEA and norinco on irons and a holo... and when I pick up a buddies noveske or lmt i dont suddenly get more accurate or more reliable...

Actually, that was the point I was trying to make… the difference between a Norinco and a Noveske is not as substantial as the difference between a Honda and a Rolls Royce… So... the difference between a Norinco and a NEA is less substantial than a Norinco and a Noveske, no? Thus I don’t believe this is the upgrade he is looking for…

sure you can take non owners word for it...

or someone who competes with, and regularly shoots 1k rounds a month, as opposed to simply googleing or going and CGN for info.

By taking your advice is he not coming to CGN for info?

yes... ALL the US brands need EXTENSIVE paper work to be shipped back to the states IF and Only IF they accept to do the repair, which may or may not be on their $ coin for shipping...

S&W told me I was on my own, there is a thread up right now about knights arms being the same.... either they wont do it, or you have to go through the import export process at your own cost

Lets see...
Stag - Lifetime warranty through Arms East
LMT - Questar will take care of you
KAC - One Shot, per Farmboy
S&W - I dunno, guess you got the bad one?
 
Wrong.

We look after the warranty for you if the KAC product is imported by us and purchased through one of our dealers.

If you went through a third party, then you'd better make sure they have the paperwork and will support you.

If you got it shipped illegally by a US dealer you fubar'd as you can't apply for import export permits after the fact.






This is a Norc. I purchased as part of building a collection of a variety of rifles.

My KAC, Cadex, DD, LMT don't flake, nor do the VLTOR, Noveske, PSA, CORE and other brands we carry, use and own.

There is a reason for the price, and once you handle a large number of rifle it's easy to see why.

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Your Norc Do grind coffee ??? great feature!
 
Just go for a DD, only $400 or $500 more save you all the question you have. The price of DD is almost the same as in US, you will not regret. Remember, reliability is not always comes with all makes. But when you miss it, you will Be completely pissed.
 
I wouldn't advise AGAINST it, specifically, but I would advise you to wait, if only because I am about to embark on fairly extensive testing of an NEA rifle.

It will hopefully give some insight in to the current state of NEA manufacturing.

If you need a rifle today, I would look at DD first.

If you are specifically interested in an NEA gun, there should be data available beginning in the next 3-4 weeks. If not, Stag, LMT, Colt, and DD all make solid guns.



General thoughts on the discussion:

I am not someone who believes you need to personally own a gun (or anything else) to relay information about that gun (or other thing).

What I do find a little useless about these threads is the minimal amount of ACTUAL DATA that gets related.

I would absolutely support anyone who said, "the problem with NEA rifles is that the ABC is spec'd to ### instead of YYY, and consequently a lot of issue ZZZ is likely". I would also accept "NEA was involved in really questionable advertising stuff here on CGN, and I just won't support them for that, regardless of the fact that I couldn't tell you much about their rifles". Either way, I would be inclined to say "fair enough". Both would be legitimate complaints, and I don't object to anyone exercising their discretion in regards to standards for ARs, or ethics.

Unfortunately I often see - in addition to the occasional legitimate complaint - random comments like "NEA guns are garbage" from people with no experience with the guns, OR specific complaints about what is wrong.

To me, that's not data, so I question whether the person relaying that information has any particular knowledge of the subject.

I think it's fair to say that I have more knowledge of the NEA rifles than most here; my feelings are mixed but hopeful. But I am at least working to generate objective data.

I just don't have much use for the subjective opinions of people with no real experience OR data. I would prefer to see actual information rather than hyperbole and so on.

I have noticed, though, that the standard for what constitutes legitimate information on any gun at all is fairly low on this site.
 
I wouldn't advise AGAINST it, specifically, but I would advise you to wait, if only because I am about to embark on fairly extensive testing of an NEA rifle.

It will hopefully give some insight in to the current state of NEA manufacturing.

I'm sure we'll all look forward to your preliminary assessment with interest. Appreciate the update.
 
I appreciate all the feedback as this was definitely helpful. I have decided to stick with my norinco and save for a DD.
My original concern with the norinco was not the function or quality, but how long will it last. I have a hard time buying a firearm if it is not built to last.
I will keep the norinco and have since purchased a NEA 7" quad rail on clearance for $100 and a Magpul rear BUIS. The only quality issue I have had with my norinco was the sling and the carry handle sight.

I guess if needed I can always replace parts when needed.
 
those are DEALERS providing warranties, like marstar does with norinco,

one shot wont support your KA if you go through someone else, or lack paper work,

just like marstar wont warranty the norinco you buy from one shot... or sfrc ect...

and granted, if we were in the states im pretty sure all those brands would have much easier warranty processes,




its just the same people bashing, agreeing with themselves, and rehashing the same made up issues, and the same actual issues that were openly declared on that run, and have since been eliminated, and lumping them all as legit... soft YFS screws my a$$... saying mods purposefully delete things in blatent favor of NEA, but beg mods to give me an infraction for calling BS on things like soft YFS screws...

the fact that the same people constantly derailing threads and Pro NEA people dont seem to get butt hurt enough to report it... yet the ANti crowd acts like the world will end if another NEA is sold...

news flash... a product that is being sold faster then its being made is a good product.

owners are going "wait a minute, what you are saying on the internet is not how my gun is performing" or just staying out of it because they get dog piled on by the bash NEA crew...

all for our own good of course, they are only trying to protect us from the horror of owning a norq/NEA...

if its so horrible where are all the owners of these crappy NEA's? they dont seem to make a PEEP in these threads... should be a long string of people going "I GOT BURNT DONT BUY IT LIKE I DID" if its such a bad product,

but hey, its the internet, everyones an expert right?

im sure the soft YFS screws in my NEA will be the death of us all
 
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