Im shure this is a common question but im looking to buy another gun for moose/black bear hunting. i currently have a 300 win mag which is very powerfull but not always needed. im thinking of buying somthing smaller like a 308 or 270. whats everyones thoughts? my grandfather used a 308 for years and never faild to kill a moose. how would you compare a 270 to a 308?
what caliber?
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blasted_saber
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308 - short action, a little bit cheaper to feed in terms of hunting ammo, available 7.62x51 or 308 FMJs for practice at much lower prices ( I just picked up a box of 20 FMJs for $11.95).
In terms of performance on game, its pretty much a wash.
In terms of performance on game, its pretty much a wash.
i`m facing the same question and some people love to get off topic but i hear 308, 30-06 and 270 will all kill moose and bear...i shot a calf moose at 135 yards with one 30-06 180gr soft tip in the heart and she dropped instantly....i always wondered about the 308 as well
270 pushes lighter smaller diameter bullets faster. In practical terms there is no difference in their performance on moose. Personally I prefer the 308, but it isn't any huge better killer of moose. I simply prefer a bigger hole in the critters I shoot. - dan
Since you already have a 300 win mag I would probably choose a 308 if I were you. You can get a light handy short action gun, and if you reload you can use the same projectiles in both cartridges if need be. Be careful though, you might just like that 308 so much that you'll never want to shoot your 300WM any more 
Since you already have a 300 win mag I would probably choose a 308 if I were you. You can get a light handy short action gun, and if you reload you can use the same projectiles in both cartridges if need be. Be careful though, you might just like that 308 so much that you'll never want to shoot your 300WM any more
And that is exactly what happened to me. Anyone want to buy a .300 win mag? lol
If you are hunting moose and black bear, stick with the .300 mag., if you already own one. It doesn't make sense to drop down to a lesser round for moose hunting when you've already got an excellent moose cartridge.
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9.3x62. What was the question?
For what your doing i wouldnt use anything less than that 7 rem mag. I have an uncle with a 270 that he loads a 130 ballistic tip into. I havnt seen it but he said his 270 floors moose like fk all and he hunts moose with it every year. Ive seen a guy dump 5 rounds into black bear at 300 yards with a 270 that was on the run. When he started to reload my other buddy dumped it on the first shot with his 300wm, the first shot from the 270 was right behind the shoulder... big deference between a 130 grain and a 200 grain bullet.
Ive heard of lots of guys shooting bear and moose with 308 and 270... I wouldnt if i had other choices, and I wouldnt dare hunt Grizzly bears with either of those cartridges.
I personally think your 300wm is the perfect choice for a moose. On a normal day a 300wm will mow a G bears lawn, but in a close up hairy situation i know some guides that would say a 300wm could be a little under gunned for a G bear.
Im personally not a 300wm fan, mainly because of the recoil. But it is just an awsome all around cartridge. I think its perfect for what your doing... Not too much not too little. Like another member already mentioned, You can just load it down.
Ive heard of lots of guys shooting bear and moose with 308 and 270... I wouldnt if i had other choices, and I wouldnt dare hunt Grizzly bears with either of those cartridges.
I personally think your 300wm is the perfect choice for a moose. On a normal day a 300wm will mow a G bears lawn, but in a close up hairy situation i know some guides that would say a 300wm could be a little under gunned for a G bear.
Im personally not a 300wm fan, mainly because of the recoil. But it is just an awsome all around cartridge. I think its perfect for what your doing... Not too much not too little. Like another member already mentioned, You can just load it down.
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i will admit i didnt see the part about behind the shoulder, before i wrote that reply... but if the first shot was just behind the shoulder an connected with Vitals, the Bear wouldnt of gone very far regardless.
I use a 270 an have shot Deer an Big deer with it, with hard projectiles it will punch a hole in any animal, 140gr Accubonds are my medicine
I use a 270 an have shot Deer an Big deer with it, with hard projectiles it will punch a hole in any animal, 140gr Accubonds are my medicine
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I totally dont see any point in downloading cartridges.... somewhere between the min an max load is where it should be.
dont like the cal/cart/gun, Sell it!
BTW- go 308 an later rebarrel to 338fed
Here's one advantage, the rifle in question is a .375 Ultra, the load was a 270 at 1200 instead of 2900 . . .
My advice would be save your pennies and get into loading your own. You can turn one rifle into 3 rifles by varying your loads. On that note, my choice would be to sell the 300 win mag and buy a 300H&H. The 300H&H has a long neck and is vary versatile with different bullets, the long tapered case means longer brass life(really long if not loaded too hot), it has less recoil than the 300 win mag in most load configurations and it's just a classic cartridge!
Just my 0.02
Cheers
Just my 0.02
Cheers
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[QUOTEWhelenLad] What is that chicken ??? haha Nahh, seems like a waste of 230gr of lead, looks like a 40gr .22wmr or .410 would be perfectly adequate?
A 270 gr bullet is lighter than packing a second rifle, and the .375 is more comforting in my neighborhood than a .22.
A .270 is fine for moose/black bear. I just got my moose with my .270, however I would recommend choosing the 150gr. over the 130gr. bullet for moose. I love my .270 so much that I sold my 30.06(old all purpose). The .270 will drop moose like a sack of potatoes, as you know bullet placement is key! Have a good one.
