Finally shot my CZ! Observations from a n00b.

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It was raining pretty good yesterday, but a friend and I drove up to some property I have access to and took a couple of our guns. I took my Supernova and my CZ-858. I just wanted to share a couple observations I made and maybe get some feedback from you guys on a small issue..

First of all, after the first shot I was amazed by the lack of recoil on the 858. It really doesn't feel much different than my .22, except for the muzzle climb (I'm going to add a Muzzle Brake). This rifle is so much fun to shoot and is so manageable, I could've stayed there all day shooting if the weather hadn't gotten crappy on us. Once I got shooting it, I immediately realized I need to go ahead with a range membership so I can get out shooting more often.

Secondly, I was pretty impressed by the accuracy out to 100yds. I don't have a sight tool yet so I was limited in elevation adjustment, but once I knew where I was hitting I would just hold a little low and it was grouping very well. At about 25yds I'm hitting dead-on. Would you guys recommend a 25yd zero? I'd like to hear what zero you guys are using and why.

Now the small issue, although it only did it the first few times we'd chamber the first round after a mag change. I'm pretty sure it was only one or two of the mags that gave me problems. After a mag change, I'd pull back and release the charging handle to chamber the first round, and that first round would get jammed half way. It kind of seemed like the issue may have just been the coating on the lips of the magazine being too thick. After a few of these malfunctions it didn't cause me anymore trouble. There were no failures to feed during operation and the rifle cycled all 5 rounds in rapid fire with no issues. My friend was laughing cuz all the first 4 cartridges were still in the air as I took the 5'th shot. He was bugging me about this rifle when I bought it cuz he only likes hunting guns, but he was grinning after he put some rounds through it.

One more thing I wanted to add. I cleaned the rifle with boiling water, followed by a normal cleaning routine. I stripped everything down and went crazy on it and was amazed by how dirty this corrosive ammo is, or at least the particular one I'm shooting. There was black soot everywhere. Anyway, she looks brand new again and I'm a happy camper. The Fab grip I added is fantastic. Now I just need to get rolling on wood handguards.
 
Sounds like a fun time! the 858 is a very fun rifle and always ends up eating alot of ammo. The feeding issues may be from riding the bolt handle and not "snapping" or Slingshoting"...just pull back and let it fly. My 858 has never been cleaned with water just G96 and some foaming bore cleaner. Most surplus is nasty to clean but for the price we cant really complian. Enjoy your great rifle!
 
Mine did that same thing with mag changes at first . Now it's okay though . I have no idea what it was but I'm sure those here with more knowledge will .
The fab grip is awesome isn't it ?
Buy lots of ammo , you will use it all !
Have a ball .
 
OP, you can also clean with Hoppe's #9, it is formulated to dissolve the corrosive salts and isn't as messy as trying to run boiling hot water everywhere. I love my 11.8" CSA vz56 carbine as well, it makes me smile every time I take it out.

Mark
 
When i ordered my 858 from arma-coat my attitude was "I'm gonna try this out and if it sucks i'm putting it up on the EE" So i tried it. Non corrosive ammo and all. The accuracy was awesome. Next to no kick and it has that "oh f*ck, he's got an assault rifle. RUN!!!!" feel to it. You know that feeling right? Anyway, Everytime i let any of my friends try it out i have to look away when they're done shooting it cause i don't want to see the massive boners they get. It's pretty homo when there's only 2 of you at the pit and one guy has a gigantic boner. Anyway, boners aside, it is in my very select group of 'never sell unless someone offers me a bajillion dollars' rifles in the corner of my safe. I looooooves it. I think i'll go fondle it right now. I'd thank you OP for bringing this topic up but you've made me think about my friends #####es and that sh*t is just weird...
 
I haven't adjusted the sights at all on mine, and she's dead on at 50 yards. I've experienced that same issue too with the mags, even when I just let the bolt go and didn't ride it (I don't do that, but some of my friends did). I just installed the Fab Defense grip tonight, it fits my hand perfectly.
 
When i ordered my 858 from arma-coat my attitude was "I'm gonna try this out and if it sucks i'm putting it up on the EE" So i tried it. Non corrosive ammo and all. The accuracy was awesome. Next to no kick and it has that "oh f*ck, he's got an assault rifle. RUN!!!!" feel to it. You know that feeling right? Anyway, Everytime i let any of my friends try it out i have to look away when they're done shooting it cause i don't want to see the massive boners they get. It's pretty homo when there's only 2 of you at the pit and one guy has a gigantic boner. Anyway, boners aside, it is in my very select group of 'never sell unless someone offers me a bajillion dollars' rifles in the corner of my safe. I looooooves it. I think i'll go fondle it right now. I'd thank you OP for bringing this topic up but you've made me think about my friends #####es and that sh*t is just weird...

LOL Awesome!
 
Yeah--I bought my 858 four days before heart bypass surgery as a gesture of defiance. Now 5 years, 4 bypasses, several thousand rounds, one EOTech, a TBR, an ambi-mag release, an NEA heavy brake, an NEA railed upper h.g. and several other cardiac issues later, its at the top of my do not sell list.
 
Yeah--I bought my 858 four days before heart bypass surgery as a gesture of defiance. Now 5 years, 4 bypasses, several thousand rounds, one EOTech, a TBR, an ambi-mag release, an NEA heavy brake, an NEA railed upper h.g. and several other cardiac issues later, its at the top of my do not sell list.

This is too.

Keep on ticking!
 
When i ordered my 858 from arma-coat my attitude was "I'm gonna try this out and if it sucks i'm putting it up on the EE" So i tried it. Non corrosive ammo and all. The accuracy was awesome. Next to no kick and it has that "oh f*ck, he's got an assault rifle. RUN!!!!" feel to it. You know that feeling right? Anyway, Everytime i let any of my friends try it out i have to look away when they're done shooting it cause i don't want to see the massive boners they get. It's pretty homo when there's only 2 of you at the pit and one guy has a gigantic boner. Anyway, boners aside, it is in my very select group of 'never sell unless someone offers me a bajillion dollars' rifles in the corner of my safe. I looooooves it. I think i'll go fondle it right now. I'd thank you OP for bringing this topic up but you've made me think about my friends #####es and that sh*t is just weird...

That's gold , Jerry , gold !
I will also never sell mine .

Btw , I never think boners are too " homo " .....but I'm a girl .
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OP, you can also clean with Hoppe's #9, it is formulated to dissolve the corrosive salts and isn't as messy as trying to run boiling hot water everywhere. I love my 11.8" CSA vz56 carbine as well, it makes me smile every time I take it out.

Mark

I did use Hoppes #9 to clean it after the boiling water. I wasn't sure if skipping the water routine would be ok so I took the extra step to be safe. I'm glad to hear I can skip that step, as it's a bit of a PITA. Thanks.

When i ordered my 858 from arma-coat my attitude was "I'm gonna try this out and if it sucks i'm putting it up on the EE" So i tried it. Non corrosive ammo and all. The accuracy was awesome. Next to no kick and it has that "oh f*ck, he's got an assault rifle. RUN!!!!" feel to it. You know that feeling right? Anyway, Everytime i let any of my friends try it out i have to look away when they're done shooting it cause i don't want to see the massive boners they get. It's pretty homo when there's only 2 of you at the pit and one guy has a gigantic boner. Anyway, boners aside, it is in my very select group of 'never sell unless someone offers me a bajillion dollars' rifles in the corner of my safe. I looooooves it. I think i'll go fondle it right now. I'd thank you OP for bringing this topic up but you've made me think about my friends #####es and that sh*t is just weird...

LOL Thanks for the laugh!

And I don't know about my buddy, but now that you mention it, shooting the CZ did kinda make my pants tight.
 
When i ordered my 858 from arma-coat my attitude was "I'm gonna try this out and if it sucks i'm putting it up on the EE" So i tried it. Non corrosive ammo and all. The accuracy was awesome. Next to no kick and it has that "oh f*ck, he's got an assault rifle. RUN!!!!" feel to it. You know that feeling right? Anyway, Everytime i let any of my friends try it out i have to look away when they're done shooting it cause i don't want to see the massive boners they get. It's pretty homo when there's only 2 of you at the pit and one guy has a gigantic boner. Anyway, boners aside, it is in my very select group of 'never sell unless someone offers me a bajillion dollars' rifles in the corner of my safe. I looooooves it. I think i'll go fondle it right now. I'd thank you OP for bringing this topic up but you've made me think about my friends #####es and that sh*t is just weird...

Hrm, I hope this doesnt sound weird, but i've been on the fence about getting one until now -- now I'm sold.
 
First round getting jammed half way is very likely because you were riding the cocking handle. My 858 is very picky about that, if you ride it even a little bit it probably won't feed. When my bolt locks to the rear, I cant the rifle to the left, and give the cocking handle a firm yank, almost punching it with a closed fist, and make sure I don't contact it afterwards.

Enjoy the 858, it's a great rifle.
 
Hrm, I hope this doesnt sound weird, but i've been on the fence about getting one until now -- now I'm sold.

Nothing like the promise of free boners to sway the fence sitters.

I am consistently impressed at the lack of recoil and iron site accuracy of the CZ858. People that hate them for no good reason are missing out on a fantastic rifle.
 
I would recommend a 25 yard zero, as it would also be zeroed for 200 yards because of the trajectory of the 7.62 x 39
 
I would recommend a 25 yard zero, as it would also be zeroed for 200 yards because of the trajectory of the 7.62 x 39

Thanks for your reply. I've seen a YouTube video which explains the 25yd zero with graphs and so on, and I believe the guy did a great job of explaining the trajectory and how he got his numbers. Unfortunately, though, he didn't backup his data with a practical demonstration, ie; range action. I was hitting dead on at 25yds, and a few inches high at 100yd, so I figure at 200yds it shouldn't be far off the mark.
 
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