What was the issue with the original NEA15s?

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Hi Guys

Just curious, what was the issue with the original NEA15 uppers?
(I think they would work fine with 5.56 but not with .223)
Also, I did a search, but after 10 minutes of reading old threads I gave up, there is just way too much info to sort through.

Thanks
 
working with 5.56 but not .223? where is that from? you are likely mis informed on that point,

I guarantee you will have a s%$tstorm of people adding random things to this that are either one offs, or just wrong,

some the first batch of trigger groups were heavy and not heat treated, were a few people whose gas block screws came loose, and there were some buffer plates that were too high.

I wouldnt worry too much about it, its past models and despite the same internet personalities jumping all over any opportunity to bash the brand, most owners are very happy with their rifles, myself included... fantastic barrels on the NEAs especially for the price
 
IMO the big issues were:

1) very rough triggers
2) questionable parts in the lowers
3) insufficient attention paid during assembly

I have a new one now which I will be shooting a bunch tomorrow. Unfortunately my opinion has recently become a little irrelevant as NEA recently purchased a bunch of services from my company, so I can't really be the disinterested third party I used to be. I will still give my thoughts but I am now in a business relationship with them, so even if my assessment is objective, there will never be the perception of objectivity. It's a bit of a shame as I was really looking forward to doing a serious investigation of the gun, but I ultimately wasn't going to screw a business deal for the sake of a forum gun review.

Of course they are not the only company I deal with but in their case it seems particularly worthwhile to disclose the fact that I am now doing business with them.
 
misanthropist said:
IMO the big issues were:

1) very rough triggers
2) questionable parts in the lowers
3) insufficient attention paid during assembly

I have a new one now which I will be shooting a bunch tomorrow. Unfortunately my opinion has recently become a little irrelevant as NEA recently purchased a bunch of services from my company, so I can't really be the disinterested third party I used to be. I will still give my thoughts but I am now in a business relationship with them, so even if my assessment is objective, there will never be the perception of objectivity. It's a bit of a shame as I was really looking forward to doing a serious investigation of the gun, but I ultimately wasn't going to screw a business deal for the sake of a forum gun review.

Of course they are not the only company I deal with but in their case it seems particularly worthwhile to disclose the fact that I am now doing business with them.
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I would still consider your review objective, you at least keep a clear head on the subject.

the more owners who review it (good or bad) the better... too many people with 0 experience with the rifle acting like they know it inside and out... it just makes a mess of the threads and is too much misinformation to sort through.

im sure if yours is a dud you will let us know, looking forward to the review

and yeah, the issues you list are bang on,
 
They are a budget gun, they work (mostly) and came with stuff other budget guns did not..

Like with any budget gun, you'll get people who have never handled/used the AR platform.. some threads were problems due to user error/maint (oiling firing pin etc). To get a cheap price.. you dont get the best mats/parts.

I'd just save up a few more bucks and pick up a DD.. they're good affordable AR's.
 
I've owne one of the first batch for exactly a year now. My #### hasn't fallen off yet, and, while a few thing have changed on the rifle, I'm still running he same lower parts kit, less the trigger components, and still running the same bolt carrier group. It's been a fantastic purchase. I competes in both service rifle and a 3 gun match this sEason, and it never let me down. Regular maintenance, and learning everything there is to know about the platform has been key.
 
Short answer is that given the NEA warranty, any rifles with issues should have been made right by now. The rest is just noise IMHO. FAR too much drama every time an NEA thread is started.
 
misanthropist said:
IMO the big issues were:

1) very rough triggers
2) questionable parts in the lowers
3) insufficient attention paid during assembly

I have a new one now which I will be shooting a bunch tomorrow. Unfortunately my opinion has recently become a little irrelevant as NEA recently purchased a bunch of services from my company, so I can't really be the disinterested third party I used to be. I will still give my thoughts but I am now in a business relationship with them, so even if my assessment is objective, there will never be the perception of objectivity. It's a bit of a shame as I was really looking forward to doing a serious investigation of the gun, but I ultimately wasn't going to screw a business deal for the sake of a forum gun review.

Of course they are not the only company I deal with but in their case it seems particularly worthwhile to disclose the fact that I am now doing business with them.
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Your voluntary declaration of a financial relationship with NEA, is appreciated

Others could learn a lesson from your honesty.
 
jdman said:
id still like to hear your review Mis.
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Well, I appreciate that at least some people have some faith in my integrity(suckers)! I will certainly let everyone know how it goes. I will however preface the write up with the statement that I am no longer entirely removed from the situation.

What I will definitely do is keep a log of all the rounds through the gun. Then, everyone can be confident that I am either lying outright, or that the gun is doing whatever it's doing, round by round. If I get a stoppage, parts breakage, or malfunction, I'll record it.

I will be running mostly PMags, plus some Fusil mags that I have kicking around. That should give a pretty good idea of how it functions with both GI style and polymer mags.

Anyway I'll have it out tomorrow, so the first report is not far away.
 
misanthropist said:
IMO the big issues were:

1) very rough triggers
2) questionable parts in the lowers
3) insufficient attention paid during assembly

I have a new one now which I will be shooting a bunch tomorrow. Unfortunately my opinion has recently become a little irrelevant as NEA recently purchased a bunch of services from my company, so I can't really be the disinterested third party I used to be. I will still give my thoughts but I am now in a business relationship with them, so even if my assessment is objective, there will never be the perception of objectivity. It's a bit of a shame as I was really looking forward to doing a serious investigation of the gun, but I ultimately wasn't going to screw a business deal for the sake of a forum gun review.

Of course they are not the only company I deal with but in their case it seems particularly worthwhile to disclose the fact that I am now doing business with them.
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Did they finally come to their senses and make you their ridiculously overpaid spokesperson? :D

Also, just wondering what the BCG looks like on your NEA?
 
hdave said:
Hi Guys

Just curious, what was the issue with the original NEA15 uppers?
(I think they would work fine with 5.56 but not with .223)
Also, I did a search, but after 10 minutes of reading old threads I gave up, there is just way too much info to sort through.

Thanks
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They are stamped 556 so no trouble with either 556 or 223.
I'm closing in on 2K rounds through mine without issue..never had to send it back, never had to be sent new parts, never had to tweak it. I did put a new trigger in at about 800 rounds, not because I had to, just because I wanted to upgrade my trigger for 3-gun. I've put it through 2 multigun matches and one course with the stock guts and had zero issues with the gun. Mine was an early one, I received it at the end of January of this year.
I have no ties to NEA or anyone even remotely associated with them so if there is a test or something you want to see, let me know and I will document it and put it up here for everyone to check out. And as I've mentioned before, if you are in my area and want to check it out and shoot it for yourself, I'd be happy to let you giver a go!
 
hdave said:
Hi Guys

Just curious, what was the issue with the original NEA15 uppers?
(I think they would work fine with 5.56 but not with .223)
Also, I did a search, but after 10 minutes of reading old threads I gave up, there is just way too much info to sort through.

Thanks
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Well,

There were the heavy triggers, the non common aluminum specs, concerns over where parts were actually sourced from, the original handguards had the side slits too long in terms of looks but they fixed that, finish that was full of tool marks, off alignment of gas tubes, bolts that weren't staked and comercial buffer tubes instead of milspec (not a huge deal).

Then there was shillgate.
 
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