Scopes for heavy kickers

Cleftwynd said:
Where is the rest of those targets?
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Initially for record keeping on load tests I used to cut a 4"x4" sample containing the shooting results and paste it in a binder and write in the load info beside it. In addition to keeping the results in a binder I've started scanning and keeping the data in my computer for future reference.
 
elker said:
But how can we solve the problem that at low magnification (in this case, even your maximum magnificaton of 5 is low), it is very difficult to aim at paper target of 200 yards away, it is simply not clear enough. To shoot something of 4 hundreds yard away is even more difficult for eyes.
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A 1.5x5 is plenty for shooting at 200yds. Simply use a larger point of aim.

In 2010 I was shooting steel at 500yds with my 375 topped with a VXIII 1.5x5 at the Whitehorse range and hitting. This magnification range is very well suited for larger bores.

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I have never felt particularly handicapped by 4 or 5x scope magnification right out to 300 yards.
Elker, as usual, is spouting garbage.
I would be mounting a Leupold in the fixed 2.5 or 3x or a low range variable on that boomer.
Eagleye.
 
This evening I shot a whitetail at exactly 289 yards with the 270. A fixed 4 power redfield was just fine, missed the heart by maybe an inch, but got both lungs with Hornady Custom factory ammo. Standing BTW.

I can't see why a 1.5 - 5x isn't enough for 300 yards +.
 
Eagleye said:
I have never felt particularly handicapped by 4 or 5x scope magnification right out to 300 yards.
Elker, as usual, is spouting garbage.
I would be mounting a Leupold in the fixed 2.5 or 3x or a low range variable on that boomer.
Eagleye.
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You have totally lost my respect for you. I have been raised and taught to respect elders, but your NON-decency changed my mind. You might need to change your handle from Eagleye to Snakeye.
 
SuperCub said:
A 1.5x5 is plenty for shooting at 200yds. Simply use a larger point of aim.

In 2010 I was shooting steel at 500yds with my 375 topped with a VXIII 1.5x5 at the Whitehorse range and hitting. This magnification range is very well suited for larger bores.
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I might use big round red sticker from Staples as a target at 200 yards next time at gun range. My 9.3x62 has a Leopold Fix 4 scope, using normal target paper is very difficult for me to see the aim point. I sighted my scope at 100 yard zero, but dropped about 9 inches at 200 yards.

On EE, there are fixed 4 zeiss and fixed 6 swaro for sale, I might think of having one.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge, it is really helpful and appreciated.
 
I had a 2.5X Ultralight with heavy duplex on my .416 Rigby for about 1000 shots and then 2 back to back safaris. The theory seemed solid, huge and forgiveing eye-relief, bullet proof reputation and it even looked right on a express style rifle. With careful target selection, time on the range on nice days never gave any indication of trouble.

The wheels fell off the wagon when the hunting started. Shots at any distance had me wishing I had anything else mounted. When hunting thick bush I didn't realize just how much a higher powered scope aided in seeing the obstacles like trees and branches. Then theres those little matters of finding holes to shoot through, figuring out which of those big black blobs was a bull I wanted, and how it was positioned. When I did meet my buffalo in a shootable position it got worse. It was early in the morning and the jesse was thick and dark. We got in front a herd and as they moved toward and past us, I couldn't see my stupid crosshairs. As luck would have it, we gained enough light before we ran out of buffalo. When I took my shot at about 25 yards the herd was on 3 sides of us, and it got a little lively for awhile.:D I doubt there was a shot taken on game where I didn't wish there was a different scope on the rifle.

I took that scope off the second I got home and replaced it with a 1.75-6 VX111. End of problem. I used that one elephant hunting without any equipment angst. Plains game were no problem either.

Since then practically every shot that I've ever sent toward a buffalo has been aimed by a 3-9 Zeiss Diavari, or a 2.5-8X Leupold VX3 on my .375 and .458. It is unclear to me what great feats I was supposed to be able to accomplish with a fixed 2.5 or 3X that couldn't be pulled off with a variable set at the same power. These scopes mount in the lowest rings too.

The lone exceptions were shots taken with an iron sighted .450 NE double rifle. That was just for fun.
 
elker said:
I might use big round red sticker from Staples as a target at 200 yards next time at gun range.
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Perzactly! .............. I have four different sized stickers with me when I go to the range.

Save your scorn for old Eagleye, he's actually one of the most decent folk there is here on CGN.
 
medvedqc said:
Dodleg,

maybe a german #1 or 4 reticle will have cure the problem you met.
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Perhaps but it isn't an option on that particular scope, and its long gone in any event. A Leupold Heavy Duplex in a 2.5X Ultralight subtends 2" at 100 yards with the narrow part of the cross-hairs. If I can't see those, I have to blame the scope. I have the heavy cross-hairs in my 1.75-6X VX111 with no problem, and run a B&C in the 2.5-8. Used that one in lighting that was closer to black than dim.
 
My thoughts, living in Canada and the pains there are to deal with optics that fail, my #1 choices are Leupold then Bushnell. Have repair depots in Canada. All the other big names that clain they are so great, are great until they fail. Then you need to deal with how to repair them.

I guess those with the big bucks do not worry so much about those problems. They just go out and buy another till they get the original back in a year or 2.
 
Dogleg said:
Perhaps but it isn't an option on that particular scope, and its long gone in any event. A Leupold Heavy Duplex in a 2.5X Ultralight subtends 2" at 100 yards with the narrow part of the cross-hairs. If I can't see those, I have to blame the scope. I have the heavy cross-hairs in my 1.75-6X VX111 with no problem, and run a B&C in the 2.5-8. Used that one in lighting that was closer to black than dim.
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Dogled i understand your problem and i can insure that Korth Leupold custom will have make your 2.5 in any reticles you wishes. but that s true that maybe your eyes or the position on your specific rifle didnt met the right vision. i trust in fixed power on the big bore.
 
1899 said:
At that range the 2.5x is enough, imo. The fixed 4x weighs 9.3 oz - which is the same as the 1.5-5x20, while the fixed 2.5 weighs 6.5oz. The 2.5x also gives you 4.9" of eye relief, which is nice.
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This. The 1.5-5 is nice but the 2.5x20mm is pretty good too!
 
One point that gets missed in these "what scope to buy" threads is the type of hunting that will be done and where. Too often the chambering is the biggest deciding factor when it should be the hunting conditions and type of rifle.

I usually own a lightweight 22/250 and mostly use them for deer hunting. The one I own currently is topped with a VXII 2x7 which is the same scope I have on other deer rifles. Why plop a 6x18 on the rifle, just because it's a 22/250? I let the purpose of the rifle dictate the scope, not the chambering.
 
Too often the chambering is the biggest deciding factor when it should be the hunting conditions and type of rifle.
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Good point, a hunting rifle is a hunting rifle first and foremost, followed by the microscopic chance that it might be used in defence. Pick your scope by what will help you place your shots under hunting conditions, not by what seems best for a PH those job is to see nobody gets hurt. His best choice might be no scope, yours might be the same thing you use on your deer rifle. Besides, its a singleshot.
 
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