Does a 9mm pistol round have enough to drop a deer

[bcsteve]

It's total crap. I've shot several deer at close range with a 147gr hollowpoint in the 9mm and it is complete and total garbage. At ranges measured in single digit feet it was effective so what does that tell you about overall performance?

x2 Same experience. It would not even be an option for me.

 

[44Bore]

You would be far better served to get them a Ruger Hawkeye in 7.62 x 39. Plenty of cheap ammo to practcve with--just clean it if you use corrosive--and enough punch for deer at the ranges you are contemplating.

 

[bearkilr]

just to clear one thing up I'm not talking 100 yard plus shots, in Manitoba the bulk of hunters do hunt the general season for me however my primary hunting season is archery season so most shot we take are in the35-longest 45 yard range even with fire arms.

That's illegal.

 

[AlexF]

I've hunted deer with a 357 magnum 6" revolver in the US and it's a good 25 yard deer cartridge at best.
The best 9mm load might be a good 5 yard deer cartridge and I'm not joking!
Remember than 223 Rem and 30-30 Win are pretty much the minimum deer cartridge and that they have around 1000 ft-lbs of energy at 100 yards.

Anything can kill a deer, including a 22lr rifle, but 30-30 Win is pretty much the short range baseline cartridge (357 magnum and 44 magnum are way below this threshold).

Alex

 

[Can-down]

That's illegal.

He's trying to tell us that he's a bow hunter and knows how to kill at short range.

 

[Can-down]

From balisticsbytheinch

 

[chanman]

It would be marginal at best. If you want to hunt with pistol rounds, I personally would stay with .44 Mag or .45LC.
It is true that men are deer sized and we know 9mm works for that, however pistol range is darn close.

The catch about 9mm being sufficient for people is... in how many of those instances is just one 9mm shot enough? Given the frequency that gang members seem to survive being shot, I'm not sure the hunting criteria of killing quickly and humanely can be applied to 9mm even in that regard.

 

[Northman999]

I would not go out hunting deer with a 9mm.

The JR carbine is also available in .40 and .45., which are more powerful than the 9mm.

The bad thing is the JR is blowback operated, and set up for standard loads, so forget hot handloading some 250 grain bullets into a 45 acp case, which would be a totally different story than factory 9mm. The JR carbines can't handle any hot loads at all from what I've read.

I would agree with others that if the OP wants a handy little carbine in a pistol cal, find something like a Win 94 trapper in .44 mag or 45 colt and then handload it and you're perfectly fine.

 

[electricjesus]

yep. But your margin for error is really low.

 

[noneck180]

wow

 

[droid1963]

I would never opt for a 9mm pistol cartridge for deer, when there are better choices, as already stated.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Prove it for yourself.

At 35yds, shoot 2 water filled milk jugs with whatever 9mm load you want to hunt with. Compare to a mild rifle like a 30-30 or 7.62x39 and see how you pistol rd compares.

At 35yds, I have yet to shoot anything that displaced as much stuff as my 45LC in a trapper pushing 325gr around 1500fps. I would say it would put a big hurt on anything you want to hunt.

A 9mm with 124 or even 147gr HP's from a JR is going to be a whole different story.

My basic rule of thumb is that 2 water filled milk jugs. If the bullet blows through that second jug, splitting it agressively, I know effect on game will be plenty sufficient and penetration enough for an exit wound on a broadside shot. I hit them at whatever max range I want to use and see what happens.

Jerry

 

[pilot2001]

If i absolutly had to because i was starving to death ! I would want to be inside 50ft, and i would want to have the accuracy to send the bullet down the ear canal like i was Luke Skywalker sending a laser shot down a vent in the death star ...

 

[tylerjwitty]

I would rather a bow

 

[archie_james_c]

If they work on Rappers Im sure they work on hooved rats.

 

[tylerjwitty]

RAPPERs have bigger heads then deer

 

[Gatehouse]

I'd much rather use a .223 with premium bullets, a 7.62x39 with softpoints, a larger handgun cartridge in a carbine (like 44mag or 45 colt or even 45 ACP with a good bullet) or a rifle cartridge loaded down to minimize recoil. 9mm would be pretty close to last on my list to shoot a deer with. I might even prefer a .22 WMR as they seem to penetrate quite well.

 

[cdhunter]

That's illegal.

He's trying to tell us that he's a bow hunter and knows how to kill at short range.

thanks for helping me clear it up Can-down. Bearkilr, I never have nor will I ever bring a rifle out with me during bow season! I like my hunting privileges. It sickens me to this day to admit it but I hit a deer with my bow shot placement was optimum but on her initial run she jumped a fence into property I didn't have permission for so I had to go get permission for recovery. The home owners weren't home. Following the rules I called the RCMP who in turn dispatched Manitoba Conservation who turned my truck upside down making sure I had no fire arms with me before even looking for the deer, which was found first by the coyotes. point of story only carry with you what you have hunting licenses for! For the record I had no fire arms with me.

As for everybody else thanks for your opinions. The JR while a well designed weapon which was being considered because of fit (both ladies are smaller) just wont cut it.

 

[cdhunter]

I would rather a bow

that usually my first choice it forces the hunter to work for it and levels the playing field sadly in the deers favor

 

[Xman]

The round diameter is important but muzzle velocity is what matters most. Out of a pistol, a 9mm is marginal at best on deer but out of a long gun barrels, it's effectiveness increases somewhat.


Here is an illustration that shows the velocity increase that is gained with increasing the barrel length.

As you can see, a minimum 10 inch of barrel length is necessary to push that bullet above 1500 fps. At about 16 inch of barrel, muzzle velocity levels off.

That being said, you can get a carbine in .40 or .45 and have much bigger safety margin vs. error potential.

If I absolutely had to hunt deer with a 9mm carbine, I would double tap it from as close a range as I could get. If the deer wasn't within bow hunting range, I wouldn't try unless I was sure I could put the round in its brain and to be realistic, the 9mm is not a sniper round.