North Eastern Arms 12.5" AR review: range trip 2

FrankH said:
Umm... that rifle was stolen out of my shipment. I did question Jeff when I noticed it was missing.:slap:
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That's funny...he warned me he was having to pull it out of a shipment going elsewhere. I got him to alter the paperwork while I was on the phone with him to pull that one out of your batch.

Hey, on the plus side, it's got tool marks all over it. You would have had to sell it to somebody like me who wouldn't care anyway.
 
Clobbersauras said:
^^means nothing in this application. .005" is almost as thin as a coke can.

With a thin mag well you would be worried about dropping, banging, crushing the wall during normal use, leading to a probable crack. I would hazard a guess that for normal bench use and plinking 0.040" would be fine. Put it to harsher use; three gun, course work, training with movement and you will get a better idea how it would hold up. I believe Misanthropist isn't interested in bench shooting or plinking with this rifle so I'm sure his further testing will be more likely to reveal any issues than the majority of shooters on this board.
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I drop, throw, use in three gun and bang mine all the time, it wont break... heck I can step on it and it doesnt flinch.... what realistic "combat" or "hard use" situation would put more then 150ilbs of direct, perpendicular, weight on the magwell? PS clobber I dont mean to come off as snarky, I just dont see how it could break, even with the abuse I put it through.


also A circular groove is actually quite strong, ever notice how many door ways have an arch? its stronger then a right angle, with less material,

if its such a big deal, then why no concern over the plastic parts of an AR-15?


they will break long before the aluminum magwell, and they still are strong enough to handle "hard" (IMO normal) use


miso, good to know the QD stock and sling plates are now standard then,
 
misanthropist said:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?767451-NEA-15-Ka-Boom


Realistically, if the gun didn't blow up - and perhaps most significantly in the context of this discussion if the thinnest part of the receiver did not crack - under these conditions, I would guess it is likely to be a non-issue.
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I had forgotten about that incident. You are right that it will probably be a non issue.

I would still like to see you run it over with your 4 Runner though. Just because I'm a sucker for stuff like that.:D
 
easysauce said:
I drop, throw, use in three gun and bang mine all the time, it wont break... heck I can step on it and it doesnt flinch.... what realistic "combat" or "hard use" situation would put more then 150ilbs of direct, perpendicular, weight on the magwell? PS clobber I dont mean to come off as snarky, I just dont see how it could break, even with the abuse I put it through.


also A circular groove is actually quite strong, ever notice how many door ways have an arch? its stronger then a right angle, with less material,

if its such a big deal, then why no concern over the plastic parts of an AR-15?


they will break long before the aluminum magwell, and they still are strong enough to handle "hard" (IMO normal) use


miso, good to know the QD stock and sling plates are now standard then,
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if you need help I am 230 and will stand on your rifle at the next match :)
 
Misanthropist, what types of groups are you getting with the rifle? Have you benched it beyond zeroing? I know a T1 is not the best optic to test accuracy potential, but just thought I'd ask since I'm interested in the barrels. Also wondering how you like the 12.5 length?
 
I haven't put any serious effort in to grouping the gun. I have some Mk262 on the way that I'll treat seriously in a few weeks.

I did wing out a 10 shot group fairly casually today just out of curiosity. I definitely did not take any serious steps to augment the accuracy of the shots; I just leaned across a bench and threw a couple of mags at a target at 70 yards, because it happened to be there. Group size was a little more than 2 1/2".

I would guess, then, that it would have been roughly a 3 MOA group, 10 shots, mag change in the middle, no significant effort involved. If benched and shot for accuracy...yes, this thing is going to be extremely accurate.

I never do any bench shooting and haven't shot at intermediate ranges for several years. I think that without a rest I'll really struggle to get it down under 2 MOA, based purely on my own limitations. From a rest it will obviously perform better.

Consider also that I shot it entirely with AE bulk. With the Mk262...should be extremely, extremely accurate.
 
I still haven't cleaned mine since last session...I'll clean it this weekend and see how easily the carbon comes off. 3 or 4 weeks of sitting with the carbon on...it'll either be a chore to scrape it off like you'd expect, or it'll wipe off easily, as NEA claim it will.

We'll see.

Incidentally the 12.5 is my favourite gun at the moment...great balance of maneuverability and velocity.
 
misanthropist said:
...it'll either be a chore to scrape it off like you'd expect, or it'll wipe off easily, as NEA claim it will.
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My money says it will be bit of a chore to scrape off. My bolt isn't one of NEA's home grown ones but I'd be surprised if there is some sort of treatment that allows carbon to wipe off. Perhaps initially but carbon is carbon and steel is steel. I think of it like a non-stick frying pan...you can buy a high end one but eventually that egg is going to be a bugger to flip. It's just the nature of the materials and the high temperatures you repeatedly expose them to. I'm not an AR expert nor am I a chef, just a realist ;).
 
the NEA bolt: it does seem to clean fairly easily, I never have to do more then wipe it down with a cloth, only left carbon on it for 5 days or so after range trips, but thats 300+ rounds of carbon
 
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