Initial thoughts on new Norc M305

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After almost five years of lurking and waiting for the price to drop (over here in New Zealand), I finally got a great deal ($400NZ) on a new standard size M305 w/synthetic stock complete with three mags. Takedown for cleaning is easier than my old Mini 14 and I discovered that the op rod guide had some side to side movement and the op rod had some slight movement as well. With light fading fast I jumped the fence out back and test fired 10 rounds as a function check/sight check. All rounds fed/ejected perfectly and I was amazed at the low recoil (shooting seated). I was also surprised at how all the brass landed only one-two meters away (compared to never finding any Mini14 brass!) First five rounds at 25m were approx 2 inches (which may sound crap but I have not shot open sights on a rifle in about a decade so I was trying to figure out my sight picture!) Then five more rounds, seated, at approx 80m. First three rounds went about 3 inches, and after adjusting the elevation up two klicks I went for a speed double tap that had both rounds a bit high and 3.5 inches apart. I was using Hornady 140gr SST ammo. I'm picking I'll keep three shot groups easily under four inches (with open sights) at 100m once I've had more trigger time and further improvement from the Sadlak Op Rod Guide and Gas Piston on order.

Overall: Easy to disassemble and clean, low perceived recoil and with enough accuracy to smoke any medium/large game out to 150m (with open sights and oldish eyes!) this rifle is a keeper!!! If I decide to scope it, I will go with a TROY Battle Rail and have a gunsmith take it back to 18.5"......and so the money pit begins.....:cool::cool:

I will try Hornady 168gr BTHP to compare against the 140gr SST next.
 
I was interested to note that our mates over in China had obviously test fired the rifle; there was carbon fouling in the gas piston and the first patch pulled through came out black--I would not have thought the boys had time to test fire! Or they used it to shoot a prisoner before shipping.....

Question: noticed the sight adjustments were very tight- do you have to loosen the screws prior to adjustment?? And what does the "M'" and the "II" stand for on the elevation knob??
 
Welcome to the addiction..lol

To tighten the op rod guide is easy , remove the pin and then the guide , get a center punch and put alot of dimples in the area underneath it then add some loctite and replace the guide and pin. The dimples will raise the metal abit and this makes it tighter.

Here is apic of when I did mine mine
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Not sure of what the M amd II mean....but try and get a set of Garand rear sights as the Chinese ones are crap most of the time as the pinion screws strip.
To loosen the sights turn the screw on the left (Elev Knob) counterclockwise a bit.
 
bazza said:
I was interested to note that our mates over in China had obviously test fired the rifle; there was carbon fouling in the gas piston and the first patch pulled through came out black--I would not have thought the boys had time to test fire! Or they used it to shoot a prisoner before shipping.....

Question: noticed the sight adjustments were very tight- do you have to loosen the screws prior to adjustment?? And what does the "M'" and the "II" stand for on the elevation knob??
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I was going to say something about organ donors, but decided it might be tasteless.
Enjoy the gun, and I will LOL in private.

Really.....it was funny :)))
 
I can't wait to take the beast out for it's next range session, while initial shooting showed average accuracy I'm sure that after another 100 rounds (and without the Sadlak upgrades) I should be able to tighten the groups up by another 1 MOA easily. I'm not sure what effect the fake muzzle brake has on accuracy; NZ law means that the grooves on the muzzle break are filled in so what I have is an additional useless 3 or 4 inches of metal tube after the muzzle. Given that the recoil is so light, I will probably have my gunsmith hack off the fake muzzle break.... Any thoughts on whether the additional "tube" impacts on accuracy? It serves no purpose other than adding unwanted length so I may as well hack it off?
 
I did notice that this fine bit of metal work looked eerily similar to some of the medical conditions I used to treat when I was in the army....
 
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