Tikka misfire.....using safety!
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canucklehead
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Is there some other forum reporting T3's firing when removing the safety?
If it's 'somewhat common' as you say, I've certainly never heard of it before.
I have never heard of it either, but that could be because we don't live in the same special world that he does.
. But in his defense, his post on this thread was actually somewhat related to the topic of the thread, unlike most of his other posts.
canucklehead
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- Calgary, AB
If I'm in an active hunt, there is one in the chamber. I take it you don't bird hunt much?
THIS is my safety...
I think you are the one needing a fix - up, the T3 has an excellent trigger and if it gives trouble because it has been tinkered with that is hardly the fault of the rifle is it ??
Why don't you substantiate some of your nonsense with fact sometime ??
If I'm in an active hunt, there is one in the chamber. I take it you don't bird hunt much?
THIS is my safety...
Yah huh, hoowah!
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
My comment concerning magazine full and chamber empty naturally is action specific, in that a hinge action gun, be it rifle or shotgun, must have rounds in the chamber(s) to be useful, and likewise a falling block single shot. I love hunting, but it takes up a small part of the 200 or so days a year that I carry a rifle, and I've never had occasion to miss a shot because I had to work the bolt prior to making the shot. Perhaps that's because when I carry the rifle I carry it slung, but when its in my hands, I'm anticipating that something might happen, and the chamber is loaded. On the other hand, I was packing a Ruger #1 when after 4 hours on the trail I took a break, and to my horror discovered that the safety had moved from the safe to fire position. My habit is to carry the rifle slung muzzle down, so who know how far I'd gone with a loaded cocked .416 Rigby pointed at my wife's legs, miles away from any help. I continued to carry that rifle until it was lost in a house fire, but I made sure anyone with me walked on the opposite side of the muzzle. When it came time to replace that .416, I went back to a bolt gun.
Had it happen with a buddies T3 in .223 a few years back. Took it off safety and then BAM! Cycled another round, shot and then the plastic piece behind the bolt flew back into my eye and smoke curled from the back of the bolt area. He brought it back to the store and they exchanged it for another one. I've been leary of T3's ever since although the T3 Varmint in .204 does seem like a great gun.
I think it's somewhat funny how a discussion can be diverted from it's original meaning; after the double rifle, we're now using shotguns... and as I can read it, the OP was not tracking a dangerous wounded bear or an elephant or a lion... as far as I know the OP was talking about "carrying" a (bolt, that is) rifle and removing the safety to empty the chamber... - all that AFTER the hunt, as he was at the car..... Well....
Walking through thick brush or over a stump, a river or climbing a steep hill or whatever, is supposed to be accomplished with an empty chamber. That's basic safety. Everyone does what he thinks is best for him. But if one spends a lot ot time in the woods "carrying" a gun, he will, one day, end up with an accidental firing. It happened to most of us.
As for let off at removal of the safety is not only a Tikka T3 thing, it's a common failure possible with almost evevey manufactured adjstable trigger and is a symptom of misadjustment (usually, it's a warning that says "not enough sear engagement").
Walking through thick brush or over a stump, a river or climbing a steep hill or whatever, is supposed to be accomplished with an empty chamber. That's basic safety. Everyone does what he thinks is best for him. But if one spends a lot ot time in the woods "carrying" a gun, he will, one day, end up with an accidental firing. It happened to most of us.
As for let off at removal of the safety is not only a Tikka T3 thing, it's a common failure possible with almost evevey manufactured adjstable trigger and is a symptom of misadjustment (usually, it's a warning that says "not enough sear engagement").
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It helps that you live in a province where you can see your game an hours walk away.
Besides which some rifles are designed around being abled to carry a round in the chamber safely... H&R Handi rifle happens to be one with it's transfer bar system.
Also muzzle control should be the #1 safety thought regardless of the firearm design anyway.
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Hmm, looks like I am going to have to tear down my Savage 111 this week. Same thing happened to me last weekend deer hunting. Got back to the ATV, ejected the magazine, started to move the safety off in order to cycle the bolt and "BANG". Has been fine since but I was leery of it for the rest of the weekend.
Where we hunt if you have an empty chamber you also have an empty freezer. Chances of loading a round, sighting, and getting a clean shot on a deer in the brush is mighty low. We tend to use lever guns so we can quickly take it from half #### to full and fire on one fast movement. I took my Savage because I had no rounds for the 38-55 loaded. That and I just did up some 30-06 rounds we wanted to sight in with and test fire.
Anyway, BOT, I will have to see what the sear engagement is like on the Savage. It will most likely head to the gunsmith to be checked in the next little while before I use it again.
Where we hunt if you have an empty chamber you also have an empty freezer. Chances of loading a round, sighting, and getting a clean shot on a deer in the brush is mighty low. We tend to use lever guns so we can quickly take it from half #### to full and fire on one fast movement. I took my Savage because I had no rounds for the 38-55 loaded. That and I just did up some 30-06 rounds we wanted to sight in with and test fire.
Anyway, BOT, I will have to see what the sear engagement is like on the Savage. It will most likely head to the gunsmith to be checked in the next little while before I use it again.
Two basic checks should be done after any trigger adjustment.
First, with an unloaded gun place the safety on "safe" and rifle cocked. With the muzzle elevated pull the trigger hard, take your finger of the trigger and flip the safety off hard. Repeat 10 times, the striker shouldn't drop.
Next, with the safety off and rifle cocked, bounce it lightly on the recoil pad to see if it will jar off. You don't have to go at it like you're harpooning a whale.
I also like to ensure that the striker won't follow down if the bolt slammed shut.
First, with an unloaded gun place the safety on "safe" and rifle cocked. With the muzzle elevated pull the trigger hard, take your finger of the trigger and flip the safety off hard. Repeat 10 times, the striker shouldn't drop.
Next, with the safety off and rifle cocked, bounce it lightly on the recoil pad to see if it will jar off. You don't have to go at it like you're harpooning a whale.
I also like to ensure that the striker won't follow down if the bolt slammed shut.
I perform all three of these checks not only after a trigger adjustment, but with every new to me firearm I receive.
I can see where some other people could benefit from doing the same.
Same thing happened to buddy of mine with T3 synthetic blued in .223 Rem.
I told him to take it to Oshawa Ontario they have Stoeger there and they fix it free for him.
It can happened to anyone or with any firearm, happened to other friend of mine with SxS shotgun and both rounds went off.
Point the muzzle at safe directions at all times with or without round in the chamber.
"Empty"guns kill the most!
I told him to take it to Oshawa Ontario they have Stoeger there and they fix it free for him.
It can happened to anyone or with any firearm, happened to other friend of mine with SxS shotgun and both rounds went off.
Point the muzzle at safe directions at all times with or without round in the chamber.
"Empty"guns kill the most!
Dogleg.... Already did all of that and couldnt reproduce it firing (no rounds in chamber to any that might ask), even gave it a little extra harpoon action with bolt fidget. Nothing. Wholesale(place of purchase) said to drop it off in the box and the smith will take care of it and or send it back to tikka. Thanks to all with HELPFUL info.
a guy I know showed me the pics of his sons Tikka remains. It fired while bolt partially open, the rifle was sitting on his lap as he was watching the slash. This is what I was told, I own 5 tikkas so not a hater, don't know how that's possible, scary though
