New Aboriginal Hunting and Fishing Rights?

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I just recently became aware of a new ruling in a court case which allows aboriginal peoples to hunt without licenses, seasons or restrictions. I am not sure if this applies to all bands or just the local Anishinaabe (Curve Lake) band. Regardless, a number are already abusing the priviledge and quite a few deer have been shot this week with no tags required. I hear there is a moose hunt planned for the near future as well. I fear if this isn't stopped in the very near future, we will have little left to hunt in the area at all. Local MNR is under orders to not charge anyone with status. Anyone else know anything about this?
 
Previous rules allowed status aboriginal people to hunt on their own, or treaty lands without tags. My understanding is that the new ruling allows them to hunt virtually anywhere, any time. Our local deer, moose and pickerel cannot sustain this behavior.
 
tactical870 said:
Previous rules allowed status aboriginal people to hunt on their own, or treaty lands without tags. My understanding is that the new ruling allows them to hunt virtually anywhere, any time. Our local deer, moose and pickerel cannot sustain this behavior.
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Neither can the salmon in BC. They're in deep **** and no one wants to talk about the underlying reason.
 
Methinks no Government we have or get in the near future is going to touch this issue until perhaps we end up with animals on the critical extinction list. Even then it will problably take a mass outcry from the public with the Government stepping in to act like a peacekeeper of sorts.

We have a native band here on Vancouver Island that managed to convince a judge that they have the right to hunt at night with flood lamps (pitlamping). Somehow to the judge torches and spears (not even bows) translated to modern firearms, flood lights and ATVs.

This is not ethical or sustainable. :mad:
 
Calum said:
Methinks no Government we have or get in the near future is going to touch this issue until perhaps we end up with animals on the critical extinction list. Even then it will problably take a mass outcry from the public with the Government stepping in to act like a peacekeeper of sorts.

We have a native band here on Vancouver Island that managed to convince a judge that they have the right to hunt at night with flood lamps (pitlamping). Somehow to the judge torches and spears (not even bows) translated to modern firearms, flood lights and ATVs.

This is not ethical or sustainable. :mad:
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Same here in MB...this came about 2 or 3 yrs ago. I'm all for aboriginals having some extra rights, but spotlighting with rifles & trucks is a little too much. Perhaps if they were on horseback with torches & homemade bows & arrows I'd say have at it. And they wonder why there's no moose left in certain areas of the province...
 
Take it up with the MPs, yes, but definitely take it to the media, if you can find a good spokesman. Politics are like flags - they only flap in the direction of the prevailing wind. Some expert biologist saying that this behavior will do damage to herds that will take decades to repair would be a great sound bite. And be prepared for the stand-offs, fights, and crimes that the natives bring if they don't get their way.
 
A bunch of years ago, I watched three lads in a truck take three bull moose in the three days
I was out in my favorite spot.
Not sure how many they took, but one a day for three of the days I was there will sure
play havoc on the numbers.
It wasn't odd to see a couple dozen does too.
They seemed to have moved on too.
 
I never said it made it right.............................I just said it has been taking place for years and the C.O's can lay all the charges they want, the crown prosecutors throw it out so it is just wasting yours and my tax dollars. The effort needs to be focused at the root of the problem.......finding politicians with the balls to say NO it is not ok to step outside the treaties you signed and go where you want. Do what you like on your home reservation but step off of it and the laws off the reserve apply to ALL.
 
This really does have to stop but as long as our judges keep agreeing with the native right to hunt it never will.... the real problem lies with the judicial system and narrow minded liberal judges. I think most judges are scared of the conscequences if they were to rule against a native right to hunt challenge....so the easy cop out is to allow it. 10,000 ticked off citizen doesn't amount to much of a problem but 100 ticked off natives can and often do cause quite a distrubance which in turn will put the decision of the judge under scrutiny.
So, most likely the only way to stop these types of rulings is unfortunately to cause more of a civil disturbance for allowing it, and although we all like to whine and complain not many are willing to face the possibility of a little jail time.
As my Uncle Olaf used to say "that's the way I see it".
 
tactical870 said:
I just recently became aware of a new ruling in a court case which allows aboriginal peoples to hunt without licenses, seasons or restrictions. I am not sure if this applies to all bands or just the local Anishinaabe (Curve Lake) band. Regardless, a number are already abusing the priviledge and quite a few deer have been shot this week with no tags required. I hear there is a moose hunt planned for the near future as well. I fear if this isn't stopped in the very near future, we will have little left to hunt in the area at all. Local MNR is under orders to not charge anyone with status. Anyone else know anything about this?
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Care to share the link or literature for this?
 
coyotekiller82 said:
Same here in MB...this came about 2 or 3 yrs ago. I'm all for aboriginals having some extra rights, but spotlighting with rifles & trucks is a little too much. Perhaps if they were on horseback with torches & homemade bows & arrows I'd say have at it. And they wonder why there's no moose left in certain areas of the province...
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That would be awful dangerous in my opinion and very careless use of a firearm! How do they know what is beyond the light that they might hit???
 
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