10rd+ AR mags
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andrew3081
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So did anyone actually try this idea with the 5 round magazine yet?
That probably similar to what they said when the Lar mag became available.
Don't worry guys, before you know it, we'll be #####ing about 18 rounds and talking about some new caliber mag that holds 23 rounds or something.
Yeah, It's dimensionally impossible, I know.
Armtac has mentionned the possibility of selling 6 empty brass to those purchasing .50 Beowulf magazines; in other words, you'll be able to confirm that no more than 5 rounds of .50 beowulf will fit in your magazine(s), thus keeping it perfectly legal. That you have to move the rivet or not doesn't matter, as long as it's 5.9 rounds or under.
Edit: I really should read the whole thread before making a smart ass out of myself when it's been replied-to 3x time already
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How come it is dimensionally impossible?
That probably similar to what they said when the Lar mag became available.
Don't worry guys, before you know it, we'll be #####ing about 18 rounds and talking about some new caliber mag that holds 23 rounds or something.
Yeah, It's dimensionally impossible, I know.
The RCMP says it has to be a pistol magazine for a pistol that is "commonly available" in Canada.
This was tried before with the Brugger and Thomet 9mm pistol version of the TP-9.
The importer had magazines manufactured marked "pistol" and the RCMP squashed it saying the TP-9 Pistol was not "common" enough.
This was tried before with the Brugger and Thomet 9mm pistol version of the TP-9.
The importer had magazines manufactured marked "pistol" and the RCMP squashed it saying the TP-9 Pistol was not "common" enough.
I don't understand though, maybe I'm using too much logic with Canadian Firearms Law.
I thought the role RCMP plays in this is to determine the classification of a firearm. WHO allowed this to happen? Since WHEN were they given the powers to do so? I never thought that accessories(namely magazines) that comes with it also requires classification from the RCMP??
Also, a classification based on availability of the firearm? What? In that case, dig up all the rare pistols and classify all their 10 round magazines prohibited for god's sake, because they aren't commonly available.
Can someone challenge the RCMP and ask why if a pistol isn't commonly available, 10 round magazines cannot be made for it? Why is there a connection between the two anyway.
Does the RCMP actually have powers to classify magazines as well? Prohibited devices are classified by law, such as silencers and handgun barrel with less than 105mm of length. Large part of it has to do with the original intent of design too.
I don't see why buying pistol magazines from states (if export is allowed), makes the magazine prohibited if it was advertised as pistol magazines.
Also, what is commonly available? If NEA wanted to, couldn't they suddenly register all their lowers as .50 Beowulf pistol receivers, and bring in the 10 round pistol magazines?
I thought the role RCMP plays in this is to determine the classification of a firearm. WHO allowed this to happen? Since WHEN were they given the powers to do so? I never thought that accessories(namely magazines) that comes with it also requires classification from the RCMP??
Also, a classification based on availability of the firearm? What? In that case, dig up all the rare pistols and classify all their 10 round magazines prohibited for god's sake, because they aren't commonly available.
Can someone challenge the RCMP and ask why if a pistol isn't commonly available, 10 round magazines cannot be made for it? Why is there a connection between the two anyway.
Does the RCMP actually have powers to classify magazines as well? Prohibited devices are classified by law, such as silencers and handgun barrel with less than 105mm of length. Large part of it has to do with the original intent of design too.
I don't see why buying pistol magazines from states (if export is allowed), makes the magazine prohibited if it was advertised as pistol magazines.
Also, what is commonly available? If NEA wanted to, couldn't they suddenly register all their lowers as .50 Beowulf pistol receivers, and bring in the 10 round pistol magazines?
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He means that there will be only 1 .50 beo pistol in Canada. RCMP won't see the need for hundreds of .50 beo pistol mags to come into Canada for only 1 .50 beo pistol owner.... "Not common enough"
Still following this thread with interest. Don't give up the dream.
Still following this thread with interest. Don't give up the dream.
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That's why the distinction exists between "common" and "uncommon" handguns. The thing is, if there is only 1 handgun made in .50 Beowulf, and that happens to be in Canada, one could argue the case that it is "commonly available" in Canada, as it's the only handgun of its kind, and it's in Canada, hence it's more commonly available here than anywhere else.Prescribed Prohibition Orders said:
blaxsun
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Because they are. Let's try to stick to the issues at-hand... The pistol needs to be one commonly available in Canada, so I don't think registering a single customized lower is going to fly unless AA releases a pistol-specific .50 Beowulf version that's eligible for import/sale.
I think the one key issue that everyone's forgetting is that both the metal and polymer magazines for the .50 Beowulf are already rifle magazines. Even if you were successful registering a new lower as a pistol, since the magazines can be used in both they'll probably default to the lower capacity.
18 rounds is a huge improvement over 10. Small steps boys and girls, small steps...
http://armtac.com/product/50-beowulf-5-round-magazines_polymer/
Here it is, they're all sold out though.
Here it is, they're all sold out though.
blaxsun
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What will apply to any future ruling is the decision on the SW M&P 15-22, which defined "dual-use" magazines - and where the capacity has defaulted to the lesser of the two in instances where a magazine was manufactured for use in both rifle and pistol versions.
As it now stands, even if AA were to introduce a pistol version of the .50 Beowulf - they would need to introduce a completely new and unique pistol magazine (highly unlikely).
But in answer to your question, yes. If RobArms (or any other manufacturer) developed a specific .50 Beowulf pistol and a unique 10-round pistol magazine, and marketed/advertised it specifically (and only) for the pistol - I think it has a reasonable shot.
I think it's important to recognize that we're in unknown territory. The increase from 5 to 10 to 13 to 15 and now 18 probably hasn't gone over well in some circles, and I think it might not be a bad idea to let sleeping dogs lie as opposed to awakening the dragon.
