Cheap AR?

I was joking, I've never heard it called master marksman. It's just marksman for future reference.

Here's a link for the Armalite thats close to your desired price. To make it a C7 clone you'd just have to get a full front sight ($50), and an M4 style stock ($100ish?).

ht tp://www.wolverinesupplies.com/details/5663/ArmaLite-M15A4-SPR-223-Wylde-20-Green-Rifle.aspx

It's not in stock but if you don't have your pal yet, you have to wait a bit anyway.

Sequoia said:
Master marksmen is an entitlement you get when score a high ranking on an annual military shooting test called PWT3.
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easysauce said:
NEA's have the best barrel for a thousand dollar gun, you wont be disappointed,

you can also get it in whatever length you want,

cheap, accurate as hell, and made in canada, plus you get a lifetime warranty, not to mention comes with a quad rail thats pretty ergonomic, and has a lot of other extra features you just dont find at that price point
http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_24_284
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Unfortunately the rest of the parts are iffy at best. On the other hand you will get to use the warranty service. Some owners get to use it a lot.
 
I laud your enthusiasm to improve your marksmenship with your service rifle. Ur enthusiam will wane once u realize ure just a regluar joe in the eyes of a th cfc. Much like navy captains needing to get rec boating license.

I've had no issue with nea. Stag, or norc. Those are all within a a few class a days pay. I'd also look at the bcm c8.

Stick around the cgn a little longer, ull see what works and what doesn't. Word.
 
Runningfool said:
You just can't help yourself can you?...mg4201, saving the world from NEA, one post at a time.
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As I said before NEA dug their own hole. for heavens sake they let a rifle with an out of spec BCG out when they knew for a fact it is was going to be reviewd on CGN. Are you NEA's biggest fan or what?
 
Mirk said:
Well… Someone has to counter all the praise…
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Even with the usual haters here still working full time they have a lot of work to do to counter all the praise of NEA's guns. They'd be extremely disappointed to hear how many rifles they've actually built and how many have EVER had an issue. The rate of service is WELL BELOW the industry average.. Considering their popularity with the many professionals using them, I'm not entirely sure if the peanut gallery is much of a concern of theirs.

NEA rifles are in markets in which no other western rifles are operating, they are being used in environments where most other weapons systems are failing. It sucks being a hater when their target of hate is doing so well.

For the OP, if you're looking for a rifle to practice or compete with, the NEA-15 will serve you well.. if you can get your hands on one. It is certainly more accurate than your service rifle.


Before the usual gang starts frothing at the mouth... I've recently taken a position outside of NEA so don't take too much personal offense to someone raining on their parade. Even with the efforts of many to plant disinformation and conjecture at every opportunity many apparently are going to be saddened by the praise NEA has received from the professional community. They are producing an outstanding product and an unbelievable price. And what they have yet to come is going to keep building on that.
 
DMcFaul said:
Considering their popularity with the many professionals using them, I'm not entirely sure if the peanut gallery is much of a concern of theirs.

Even with the efforts of many to plant disinformation and conjecture at every opportunity many apparently are going to be saddened by the praise NEA has received from the professional community.
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Oh? This is particularly interesting. Could you please elaborate? Who are the professionals that you are referring to? What recognition or accolades has NEA received regarding their AR based rifles?

If this is the case, wouldn't NEA want this to become public information?
 
2bad4u2 said:
Oh? This is particularly interesting. Could you please elaborate? Who are the professionals that you are referring to? What recognition or accolades has NEA received regarding their AR based rifles?

If this is the case, wouldn't NEA want this to become public information?
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Company and client information would obviously be covered under a provider/client NDA. Would NEA want it known? Certainly not. Their market knows them quite well already, even if you don't.

You'll just have to accept the fact that no matter how bad you want it, they're not going to give it to you. Such is life.

Regardless, I'm not at liberty to discuss another companies inner workings or information. Even If I have the answers. It is not my place, and CGN is not the place. If you have a question about the product I can probably answer it. I own a NEA-15, have probably put more rounds through it than anyone else so I have a certain level of experience with their fit, form and function. But I'm not here to discuss a previous employers inner workings. Aside from stating for the record... ."you guys are wrong." Take it for what it's worth.
 
DMcFaul said:
Do you think all businesses disclose their professional clients? Do you think all professionals provide the ok to tell the world about their activities and kit, especially in the defense industry? Not to mention that information would be covered under a provider/client NDA... I know it does in mine.

You'll just have to accept the fact that no matter how bad you want it, they're not going to give it to you. Such is life.
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How bad I want it? Huh? Want what? You just made a claim the NEA was internationally recognized for their product and the so called "professional community" was taking notice and that their were many such users.

You make the claim but can't back it up? That's like saying, "Santa Clause is real...trust me." I have no dog in the NEA fight. Personally, I could care less one way or another about NEA. If they make great product then that's good. If not, that's fine with me too.
 
No offense but neither I nor NEA has an NDA with Santa Clause. Whether or not you "believe me" is of no consequence ultimately. I've passed on my opinion, you're free to take it at face value.. or don't.
 
I am presently building an ultra cheap ar with parts from brownells, aero lower 80$, upper 70$, krieger bbl that I will chamber myself 200$, bcg 120$, other bits and pieces scrounged from the ee 200$
 
Dave, the fact is, no matter how good a product is, someone has to counter all the praise… or, well, the info would be suspect… ;);) Think about it, people still have negative points about H&K and KAC…

I know you probably aren’t too happy with some of my comments in the past and it would be easy to label me as a hater… but you know it’s not always so…
 
mg4201 said:
As I said before NEA dug their own hole. for heavens sake they let a rifle with an out of spec BCG out when they knew for a fact it is was going to be reviewd on CGN. Are you NEA's biggest fan or what?
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Not their biggest fan just a satisfied owner.
Now you will have to excuse me, I'm off to a car forum I frequent to warn everyone to avoid Toyotas and remind them every time Toyotas are mentioned that they suck because I saw several pictures on the internet of some crappy part finishes plus I read about some assembly issues and questionable marketing techniques*. ;)

*Sarcasm
 
Was any of the nea hate directed toward the receiver? I am looking for cheap receivers play with. I have a few krieger bbls and aero receivers ordered, hard to beat the price on the aeros at 150$ for both receivers.
 
juanvaldez said:
Was any of the nea hate directed toward the receiver? I am looking for cheap receivers play with. I have a few krieger bbls and aero receivers ordered, hard to beat the price on the aeros at 150$ for both receivers.
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Machining marks...you can make them out on this pic of my receiver.
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Mirk said:
Dave, the fact is, no matter how good a product is, someone has to counter all the praise… or, well, the info would be suspect… ;);) Think about it, people still have negative points about H&K and KAC…

I know you probably aren’t too happy with some of my comments in the past and it would be easy to label me as a hater… but you know it’s not always so…
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Constructive criticism is very important to any service provider. And no one is naive enough to assume that everyone will believe everything all the time.

.. the proof is in the pudding as they say.
 
Sequoia said:
I would like to get into hand loading, I love the whole, reliant on your self for things, aspect. I've heard it's kind of ridiculously over controlled as it's considered making explosives? How accurate is that information?
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how long have you been shooting and in the CF?
ive never actually looked into it but i always just assumed CF would get free ammo to train with while on base? doesnt it make sense to give active mil ammo to train?
 
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