Loving my Lebel! 1st time reloader. Need help reloading 8mm lebel.. much appreciated!

Wow thanks guys,

I was all ready to order the lee press, primer, powder, dies, bullets and brass.

It sounded like an interesting hobby to get into.

But now I guess I have to sell this revolver - what is the point of owning such a beautiful piece if I can't fire it. Really heart breaking.

Cheers

Ok, I see you now have it listed in the EE. Very nice looking revolver btw.

I think this is a good decision as you are now less likely to injure yourself. I am hoping that you are learning that you can't take shortcuts with firearms. If you want a handgun then the best thing to do is get your RPAL. Sure you can legally own an antique revolver but being able to shoot one safely requires significant effort. They are classed as antique for a reason.

Take care and keep safe!
 
Not wierd at all actually, seems he's using the EE for profit seeking while borderline using this post to advertise with no intent of reloading what so ever.



And this is listed at $1100 plus shipping, 8 days after confirmed purchase off of the EE for "pretty much $1000"? Hope whoever buys it has the good sense to knock him back to $900.

Good to see the membership has spent their time helping you only to have it on the EE the next day. Good luck getting help in the future :cheers:.

No need to be bitter Loki - Rather than question my motives, waste my time, and help nobody at all - why don't you carry on elsewhere.

Your useless comments add absolutely nothing to this conversation, and are misguided to say the least.

I was fully prepared to start reloading and was about to dive head first into the whole thing. I wanted a hand gun I could legally own with my PAL.

Like I said - I was just about ready to order the primer, primer tool, powder, bullets, lee press, shell holder, and even the hornady dies.

I had a general idea of what to do, the load, the tools, etc., however my knowledge was very superficial and I could not find brass. Then someone suggested that I make a post, so that maybe someone with experience loading the 8mm lebel could lend some assistance. So here we are.

While some members have told me it is a piece of cake, others say I could seriously injure myself, so rather than risk injury to myself or damage to the antique firearm, I am going to try and get my money back for the gun and buy something else. Maybe an antique revolver chambered in a modern caliber.

cheers
 
OK, lets try this again.

How about, sell the lebel, for 900 or whatever...buy a norc .45 and a bunch of ammo, and with the money left over join a club to shoot it at. You won't have to worry about finding ammo or messing with "exotic" loads. You can teach yourself to reload with .45acp safely, parts are easy to come by. Once you get into shooting you can test the waters on antiques.

You're asking for advice and ignoring the best that is coming from other members here...
 
OK, lets try this again.

How about, sell the lebel, for 900 or whatever...buy a norc .45 and a bunch of ammo, and with the money left over join a club to shoot it at. You won't have to worry about finding ammo or messing with "exotic" loads. You can teach yourself to reload with .45acp safely, parts are easy to come by. Once you get into shooting you can test the waters on antiques.

You're asking for advice and ignoring the best that is coming from other members here...

not everyone wants to deal with restricted class BS and i think he said he's in windsor(a earlier post in a different thread) witch can be a problem one gun club in th whole city

reloading for this should not be a big deal once you get it down with a light load
 
antiqueguy - You live pretty close to lone.gunman - why don't you take him under your wing, and show him how to load for antiques?

lone.gunman - In your ad, you say that the revolver has a protective black coating. What is it? Spraypaint?
 
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There is no reason to buy another antique revolver which handles modern ammunition. The so called risks of shooting that one could be even higher, unless he drops big bucks into a fully restored Colt SAA. Next best thing would probably be a Webley shaved for 45 ACP. Good luck getting $1,000 or more out of that Lebel.
 
antiqueguy - You live pretty close to lone.gunman - why don't you take him under your wing, and show him how to load for antiques?

lone.gunman - In your ad, you say that the revolver has a protective black coating. What is it? Spraypaint?


Being from Toronto :yingyang: , I've formally offered as well...:wave:


This is a great and friendly community, above all-else.
 
Lone.gunman - seeing as you are very new to the shooting sports and handguns you will need to be especially carefull. It is much easier to shoot yourself accidentally with a handgun than with a long gun. The revolver you purchased does not have a safety and depends on you to be the "safety". Make sure you understand safe handling and be responsible if you should get to the point where you have loaded ammo available.
 
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not everyone wants to deal with restricted class BS and i think he said he's in windsor(a earlier post in a different thread) witch can be a problem one gun club in th whole city

reloading for this should not be a big deal once you get it down with a light load

Yes I am from Windsor and if I could safely reload for this gun, I would keep it.

As mentioned - I don't want to deal with the rpal and ATT and just inconvenience of restricted firearms

That is why I purchased the 1892!

If someone could assist me and actually sit down to help me for half an hour, I'm sure I'd grasp it quickly.

Just let me know what I have to get that you don't have,

Prolly the dies, shell holder brass and bullets

I'd keep the 1892 if I can find a practical reason to otherwise ill just find something else.


Thank you very much!
 
antiqueguy - You live pretty close to lone.gunman - why don't you take him under your wing, and show him how to load for antiques?

lone.gunman - In your ad, you say that the revolver has a protective black coating. What is it? Spraypaint?

already pm'd him about it
 
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He already has a Rem 870 that he has never blaped or so he says. Maybe instead of calling all the very experienced people in the antique and shooting firearm world Douche bags , grumps, useless and a lot of other things (not me I am an old douche bag and grump) the OP should just be real happy that someone like antique guy is going to help him out . I honestly can't believe this has played out the way it did. One genuine pm to any one of those guys would have got him on the right track. Who ever finally gets this guy to be a responsible gun owner and shooter deserves a medal. I wish them all the best, there is hope.
 
Reloading is not that difficult or mysterious... One just have to be carefull and focused... A ligth load of trailboss pretty much fills the case and with the scarcity of casings, he will probably not be using a progressive press to reload anyways!! So keeping track of the powder load , etc should not be too difficult!! Why discourage the guy like that???
 
OP - I had to read the negative feedback you received and not to sound rude or harsh, but he may be correct in stating you are indecisive: You bought the Lebel, and within a very short time are trying to sell it. In your defence, most people will have moments of indecision. You seem intent on having a NR handgun. The general consensus in this thread it seems is other members are erring on the side of safety trying to instruct a beginner in reloading for a handgun that may not be as forgiving as a modern model. I am the same, in that I would not want to provide information, and if it is misused (even though not my fault) someone was seriously hurt as a result. As you stated in your WTS ad you want a NR handgun, but are so unsure: This is understandeable because injury can be very serious if you screw up, but on the other side of that coin how many people reload and have been successful? I never had the luxury of anyone teaching me, (or easy internet access) but I did read reloading books as has been suggested to you and if you can learn from a nearby CGN member it should not be difficult to learn reloading. Yes it is more desirable to learn for a modern gun, as metalurgy has advanced by bounds since the ninteenth century. I would submit that you keep the Lebel until you have figured the art of reloading, for most antiques you can find (I doubt the modern cartridge chambered are sought after), it is likely you will be stuck reloading: Until you determine if reloading is something you will/can do, selling the Lebel will return you to square one. It appears the components are not impossible to locate, and although it is not the most easiest to procure components for, the 8mm can still be reloaded: Cartridges of the World 6th Edition I have lists a 115 grain bullet with 2.8 grains of Bullseye powder - Muzzle velocity 700 feet per second, muzzle energy 126 foot pounds. It also lists a "factory load" muzzle velocity and energy at 625 feet per second and 104 foot pounds respectively. "The 32 Smith and Wesson Long can be fired in these revolvers, but the cases bulge badly and accuracy is poor. When cooking up your own loads, stick to moderate charges and velocity as the Lebel revolver is not designed for high pressures... Bullet diameter is .330 inch and one can use the Lyman #32359 cast bullet." {Quoted from the text of the aforementioned book concerning the 1892 8mm Lebel}

If you lack the ability to follow directions from a reloading manual closely, don't lose sleep over it: Pack up and move on to another model where reloading isn't required: Reloading isn't for many people with different reasons. I like reloading, and have followed directions carefully for many years, and in the first few managed handloads for my rifle were very accurate. I suppose my intelligence is average, but my patience is for mechanical things like this, and if your strengths lay elsewhere it doesn't necessarily mean you wouldn't reload safely.

Follow the data published by reputable sources: Buy reloading manuals, and follow the instructions carefully, don't exceed safe charges of powder etc. listed by recognized and reputable manufacturers. Bullseye and Unique are Alliant powders, follow Alliant data and recommendations for their products: 700x, HP-38 are Hodgdon/IMR powders, follow their data and recommendations and data for their products. A reloading manual will cover how to use the tools and combine the ingredients to make cartridges: Follow the directions. If you follow the instructions correctly you can enjoy shooting the Lebel, if you don't (the caveat) your errors may hurt. It isn't for the impulsive: Patient, consistent, systematic procedure and focused while reloading.

And to conclude for the law student: Caveat lector ;)
 
Reloading is not that difficult or mysterious... One just have to be carefull and focused... A ligth load of trailboss pretty much fills the case and with the scarcity of casings, he will probably not be using a progressive press to reload anyways!! So keeping track of the powder load , etc should not be too difficult!! Why discourage the guy like that???
Reloading is not tooo difficult, problem with 8mm lebel is you have to make the case from something else.
 
I plan to get them off Jethunter

In your first post you asked:

what do I do? do I need any tools?

Thank you very much,

LGM

If you plan on buying some bullets, the first tool you need to buy is a set of calipers. You need to know the diameter of the bullets you are buying and you need to verify this yourself. They come in two styles. Dial or Digital and two formats Metric and Imperial. For you I would recommend a digital set as they usually work in both formats. You will know you have ones of the right type if they say accuracy: .001 or something similar but they need to be accurate to thousandths.

You will be using this tool a great deal so it pays to spend some time learning how to read it. You can measure things like the shells for your shotgun (both diameter and OAL, Over All Length). The diameter of a quarter, .9375 etc.


By the way. Have you actually fired a gun? You say you have your PAL and a shotgun. Do you belong to a range?
 
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