Bored american makes an AK out of a shovel, a parts kit and barrel blank.

And now for a Glock:

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antiqueguy said:
you will never stop the ak lol its one gun a 12 year old afghan in a cave can make
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The sten is the same way....

Just need some plumbing parts....

You can't stop anyone from making a firearm just the quality isn't that good with homemade stuff. That and it could blow up in your hand and making ammo with out the componants is a pain in the rear but it can be done. Countrys have used lipstick bottles to make brass for rifle rounds and it works. 1 country had an importation ban so they imported things like lip stick because they had brass bottoms so they could make rifle brass out of it they made guns out of simple items they had at home made them simple and they worked. You can never stop someone who is detrimend to be armed if they really want to be.
 
haha49 said:
The sten is the same way....

Just need some plumbing parts....

You can't stop anyone from making a firearm just the quality isn't that good with homemade stuff. That and it could blow up in your hand and making ammo with out the componants is a pain in the rear but it can be done. Countrys have used lipstick bottles to make brass for rifle rounds and it works. 1 country had an importation ban so they imported things like lip stick because they had brass bottoms so they could make rifle brass out of it they made guns out of simple items they had at home made them simple and they worked. You can never stop someone who is detrimend to be armed if they really want to be.
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Yep, Israel did exactly that. Made Stens in a basement out of plumbing parts and ordered lipstick from England to convert the brass tubes into rifle brass.
They won the 1948 War out of that. From that you now have a country that the world fears and holds back from destroying it's enemies entirely.

It's always amazing what people will do to survive and I believe we as gun owners just made a big dent in gaining some of our rights back by ending the LG registry.
We have shown the world it can be done too. :)
 
haha49 said:
The sten is the same way....

Just need some plumbing parts....

You can't stop anyone from making a firearm just the quality isn't that good with homemade stuff. That and it could blow up in your hand and making ammo with out the componants is a pain in the rear but it can be done. Countrys have used lipstick bottles to make brass for rifle rounds and it works. 1 country had an importation ban so they imported things like lip stick because they had brass bottoms so they could make rifle brass out of it they made guns out of simple items they had at home made them simple and they worked. You can never stop someone who is detrimend to be armed if they really want to be.
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that country was israel no import ban but surrounded by countarys that did not want them to be armed they made they're own sten guns and used any rifle thay could get

homemade ak's or stens are really not going to blow up if you do it right its the $40 trip to the steel supply store SMG's that will if you do it wrong
 
Saw a documentary about an Israeli ammunition facility built underneath a kibbutz. Has been preserved along with its machinery as an historic site. There was an interview with a chap who had worked in it. It was operational during the British Mandate, when the Brits would hang anyone manufacturing arms. The machinery was real, commercial grade tooling that had been acquired in Europe. Capable of serious production. Where they obtained propellant and primers/priming chemicals was not mentionned.
Having made a bit of a study of Stens, could anyone enlighten me on which plumbing parts could be used to make Stens? 1 1/2" EMT can be used for the tubing for the main casing. Electrical conduit is sort of a plumbing supply item. Apart from that, what plumbing fittings can be used?
Or are people thinking of the late Phil Luty's design?
The AK type gun featured in this discussion used a commercial barrel blank, and a parts set from a demilled gun. All good fun to make the receiver casing from a shovel blade - but that is only sheet steel. Lots of sources for sheet steel. Making the mechanical parts and barrel for a locked breech rifle firing a higher pressure round is a bit more demanding.
 
I think the creator was trying to make a point with the shovel. ;)

Of course it would have been more brilliant had he fabricated the whole rifle without spare parts much like the Israelis built their Stens.
In Israel's case it was more survival at that point than anything. Winchester 94's were use too. Anything that would shoot. They are a hardened people since the Nazi regime. Surrender is not an option for them anymore.

I have one of the Israeli K98 Mauser in 7.62 Nato that they bought from the Czechs back in those times. Interesting piece of history with Waffenampts still intact right alongside the Star of David.
 
tiriaq said:
Saw a documentary about an Israeli ammunition facility built underneath a kibbutz. Has been preserved along with its machinery as an historic site. There was an interview with a chap who had worked in it. It was operational during the British Mandate, when the Brits would hang anyone manufacturing arms. The machinery was real, commercial grade tooling that had been acquired in Europe. Capable of serious production. Where they obtained propellant and primers/priming chemicals was not mentionned.
Having made a bit of a study of Stens, could anyone enlighten me on which plumbing parts could be used to make Stens? 1 1/2" EMT can be used for the tubing for the main casing. Electrical conduit is sort of a plumbing supply item. Apart from that, what plumbing fittings can be used?
Or are people thinking of the late Phil Luty's design?
The AK type gun featured in this discussion used a commercial barrel blank, and a parts set from a demilled gun. All good fun to make the receiver casing from a shovel blade - but that is only sheet steel. Lots of sources for sheet steel. Making the mechanical parts and barrel for a locked breech rifle firing a higher pressure round is a bit more demanding.
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phil lutys design is crude looking but they work(he built and tested them that why he went to prison quite a few times) sadly this inventer died last year

the sten needs some machining bolt,barrel,ect of corse but it follows the lines of a easy to build gun so does the ak
 
haha49 said:
The sten is the same way....

Just need some plumbing parts....

You can't stop anyone from making a firearm just the quality isn't that good with homemade stuff. That and it could blow up in your hand and making ammo with out the componants is a pain in the rear but it can be done. Countrys have used lipstick bottles to make brass for rifle rounds and it works. 1 country had an importation ban so they imported things like lip stick because they had brass bottoms so they could make rifle brass out of it they made guns out of simple items they had at home made them simple and they worked. You can never stop someone who is detrimend to be armed if they really want to be.
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^If you are an oaf, everything you touch is liable to turn into something unsatisfactory.
 
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tiriaq said:
Saw a documentary about an Israeli ammunition facility built underneath a kibbutz. Has been preserved along with its machinery as an historic site. There was an interview with a chap who had worked in it. It was operational during the British Mandate, when the Brits would hang anyone manufacturing arms. The machinery was real, commercial grade tooling that had been acquired in Europe. Capable of serious production. Where they obtained propellant and primers/priming chemicals was not mentionned.
Having made a bit of a study of Stens, could anyone enlighten me on which plumbing parts could be used to make Stens? 1 1/2" EMT can be used for the tubing for the main casing. Electrical conduit is sort of a plumbing supply item. Apart from that, what plumbing fittings can be used?
Or are people thinking of the late Phil Luty's design?
The AK type gun featured in this discussion used a commercial barrel blank, and a parts set from a demilled gun. All good fun to make the receiver casing from a shovel blade - but that is only sheet steel. Lots of sources for sheet steel. Making the mechanical parts and barrel for a locked breech rifle firing a higher pressure round is a bit more demanding.
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I think they are talking of the PA Luty style designs, Tiriaq. I never seen any standard plumbing fittings being used anywhere in STEN guns. I guess the vernacular term: "plumber's nightmare" wrt to STEN keeps on trucking on with people taking it at its face value.

RE: kibbutz ammo factory:

Maybe they used the CIA red powder - awful hard on the metal, one would think . . .

Edit: of course, sten guns continue to be made up to today, since 1940 all over the world, with that many # of variants, there could very well be a # of variants that use plumbing parts. . .

I am not a sten gun expert nor do I play one on TV. I didn't even spend the night at the Holiday Inn Express. :(

When I was driving through VT backroads this fall, I stopped at a gun shop and seeing a few ARs made me feel ### enough to visit a dilapidated "antique barn" where farmers sell authentic :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug: from the local dump to idiot tourists. When I smelled a much stronger odor of cow :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug:, I saw this shovel and the image of the AK handle came to my exasperated mind. Flustered old dude was suspicious of a comrade in a BMW, on less traveled gravel roads of VT, who barely spoke English and needed a :bigHug::bigHug::bigHug::bigHug: shovel "for my trunk" but let it go for $2.
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Lol our American friend is a great comedy writer too. . . .:D
 
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