Can you win with a Glock?
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Let's not forget that the OP asked about winning with a Glock. In IPSC of course it's about Accuracy, Power, Speed for a winning score, not gun fighting. This is why I choose my Tanfoglio over my Glock as accurate follow up shots are just so much easier and faster with the Tanfoglio. I know guys like TDC say people who mess with the trigger just don't know how to shoot the gun in the first place but he doesn't shoot IPSC, ever. Grauffel, Sevigny, Tomase, Vogel, etc., are amazing shooters but they still do their triggers. Anything for even a fraction of a better time. I used to think it was pathetic when I saw how serious IPSC guys were back when I shot more IDPA but I haven't had this much fun and skill improvement in any other shooting shooting sport in my life. IPSC is amazing and you meet a lot of great people. OK enough of my fanboy talk. 
Next time we're out I'll bring my Walleye scale and see where it stands... And g17 with NY1 and 3.5# installed.
Next time we're out I'll bring my Walleye scale and see where it stands... And g17 with NY1 and 3.5# installed.
Get with the times brother! Now the ZEV Glockworx race connector 4 with the ZEV spring kit is where it's at!
I've seen most makes go down one way or another at matches. Glocks, CZ's, SIGS. 1911's. They are all mechanical devices and they all are capable of having a part break. All makers have service centres for a reason. The more we tinker the more likely somthing will break, kind of an offshoot of Murphy's Law.
Take Care
Bob
Hahaha. Was that a Zev spring that snapped at the Silverdale match?
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Get a glock for $600...and spend the $800 extra you would have spent on a tangfolio putting ammo down range. Especially at the weekend matches I've been to, it's not necessarily the gun, it's the shooter. A 226 or Shadow that's got a sweet SA pull is an awesome thing, but at the end of the day it's all about where you're getting that front sight and how long it's taking you get from target to target while putting rounds downrange.
True. I have 10s of thousands of rounds through my G17 and you can win with them for sure but like a lot of shooters say, once you go to a Shadow or a Tanfoglio you never look back(at least for IPSC anyway as I still shoot the Glocks regularly at the range). There's a certain fun factor with these guns. Here's my baby....
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but Glocks are good 'crossover' guns that are easy to keep 'game legal' for both IDPA and IPSC. I was switching guns between games for a while but now I just compromise a bit and stick to one platform.
Yeah. Too bad I couldn't use my G34 in IPSC production. It's fine for USPSA production and IDPA SSP though. The G17 is a good one to use in both disciplines.
And that's where I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the 'game'...I got into shooting to continue training as there's not nearly enough trigger time in the Mil/LE world due to budget and time constraints and inherently prefer IDPA to IPSC (though IPSC is more prevalent which tends to have me 'playing/gaming' more than 'training'). Feeling like if I took it any further and went with a tuned SA/DA or SA only gun the world would end ;P
I am very familiar with IDPA
. There is a police officer that used to come to most of the IDPA nights I set up at my club. Now that I set up the IPSC stages he is shooting IPSC. He is a much better shooter now and he uses his G22 "work gun" with the nasty 8-10lbs trigger exclusively. He had PPC but just took his Black Badge as well because he likes it so much. You can get your training fix at IPSC and dare I say you will clean up at IDPA if you shoot more IPSC. Since I am not Mil/LEO I really enjoy the fun of shooting whatever gun I like. Mind you, if I was LEO and allowed to carry a Tanfoglio Stock III I would!Really Chris? Clean up? If anything IDPA puts far more imprtance on accuracy than IPSC does based upon the scoring used. IPSC on the other hand places an emphasis on speed. In both instances misses hurt but you can overcome Charlies with speed of movement in IPSC. Harder to do in IDPA with shorter stages, shorter movement and the difference in scoring method. The two sports are different and require different skill sets and for the more competitive shooters different equipment to be really good. There is one prominent reason why striker fired pistols do better in IDPA and USPSA Production vs IPSC Production. That is the minimum 5# trigger pull in IPSC. Running a gun with a constant 5#+ trigger pull vs a 5#/2.5# is no contest for most. IPSC certainly has more talent than IDPA does in Canada due to time in place and numbers but that has nothing to do with the sports themselves. An "A" shooter in IPSC is not going to make Master in IDPA anymore than an Expert shooter in IDPA is going to vault into Master in IPSC. Bob Vogel managed to win every pistol division in IDPA then went over and cleaned up in his first World IPSC shoot with a bone stock G17. Is it the archer, the arrow or the sport. My bet goes to the archer.
If you were a LEO would you really want to carry the extra weight of the Tanfoglio Stock111 given all the other stuff you carry on your belt? Great gun for IPSC Production but as a LEO gun that gets carried every day and shot once a year by most.....not likely. Aside from less cost to departments, the lighter Glock/M&P has a lot of attraction for those who have to hump the load all day every day.
Take Care
Bob
If you were a LEO would you really want to carry the extra weight of the Tanfoglio Stock111 given all the other stuff you carry on your belt? Great gun for IPSC Production but as a LEO gun that gets carried every day and shot once a year by most.....not likely. Aside from less cost to departments, the lighter Glock/M&P has a lot of attraction for those who have to hump the load all day every day.
Take Care
Bob
Hahaha I knew that statement would bring you out of the woodwork. That's why I said "dare" I say. I completely disagree with you especially about the A shooter comment but let's take this to a private chat.
I am not going to start one of the old IDPA vs IPSC pissing matches. I realize you have some cards to play by standing by IDPA. I hope they truly get their act together as I will happily ask my club to allow it again. Until they get off their behinds and get some structure in Canada that will never happen at my club.
You are entitled to your opinion and I am just expressing mine from what I have seen with my own two eyes without much exception over the years.
As far as carrying a Tanfoglio. I could handle it. I can send you a pic of me closing Captian's of Crush #4.
