1911's to many to choose
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Manitobabloodfart
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A good 1911 would be pretty much any from sti. I have the spartan and its a really nice 45 never had any problems with it and shoots like a dream. Also my Sti spartan never had a plastic trigger I dont know what you guys are smoking there a very reliable hand gun. Its the GP6 that uses plastic own one of them too and there a great pistol for ipsc production.
I agree. The Spartan is a really good gun for the money. Probably the most accurate sub $1000 gun ive ever shot. Finish is good and the fit is super tight. You can hit bullseyes at 25 yds all day long with cheap win-white box.
All of those parts are forged, and I would certainly trust them over the plastic trigger on the Spartan: http://www.1911addicts.com/showthread.php?511-Buyer-s-guide-for-all-you-1911-addicts
I've never heard of anyone else complaining about these parts on Sig 1911s. Did you get them replaced under warranty?
The higher end STIs are ###y for sure, but the Trojan was never on my radar because for that price, I would rather get a tricked out Norinco with a superior forged frame and slide.
Wow, you have quite the sneeze. Sounds like nonsense to me. I've never seen any Sig have a bad trigger and this one coming is my 5th Sig Sauer.
Guess the guy who sneezed on his and it self destructed has stock in another company or something? I've found all the Sig's I've owned or handled to be well made. I seriously doubt a Sig 1911 will compare to an expensive custom, but is a solid off the shelf pistol.
1riot1ranger
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Sigs are fine for casual use, but they are not a pistol for serious use. I base this on experience, not conjecture.
I shot my BB course with a Sig XO and it was exhibiting significant hammer follow by the end of the course. Call it 1k of use on top of 3k practice. YMMV.
STI is in a different category. It's designed for competition and seeing more use than Sig. If that wasn't he case it wouldn't be the the predominant gun in IPSC.
I'm not trying to stir the pot like some of you guys, just trying to impart a little knowledge/share some experience for the benefit of the newer guys.
But some of the respondents here shoot less than 1k per month and talk like their volume is ten times that. Show me some documentation that your Sig has seen north of 5k without a failure and we'll talk. Until then (and I own 2 of them, one of which was worked over by the Gunsite gunsmith - who agreed the internals are junk), perhaps you should consider the basis for your comments. I own the equipment, but I'm not a fanboy.
I shot my BB course with a Sig XO and it was exhibiting significant hammer follow by the end of the course. Call it 1k of use on top of 3k practice. YMMV.
STI is in a different category. It's designed for competition and seeing more use than Sig. If that wasn't he case it wouldn't be the the predominant gun in IPSC.
I'm not trying to stir the pot like some of you guys, just trying to impart a little knowledge/share some experience for the benefit of the newer guys.
But some of the respondents here shoot less than 1k per month and talk like their volume is ten times that. Show me some documentation that your Sig has seen north of 5k without a failure and we'll talk. Until then (and I own 2 of them, one of which was worked over by the Gunsite gunsmith - who agreed the internals are junk), perhaps you should consider the basis for your comments. I own the equipment, but I'm not a fanboy.
Wasn't it your sneeze that caused the problems? We get it, you like the STI. Give it a rest. I'm sure 4k rounds would exhibit wear on numerous different makes of 1911's. But sounds like you've tried them all.
heavenIsAlie
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4k isnt really much, im at 8.5k on my spartan which is the lowest end on the sti line and ive had nothing break or be damaged due to wear other than the finish
edit: and i still say buy a ruger if you are going .45 and under $1000, if it came in 9mm i would have one
Pistolwhiptricks
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I'm curious as to what exactly about the Ruger, other than the stainless finish, would make you recommend it over the Spartan? Yes, the SR1911 is a nice pistol but the fitting just isn't in the same league as the Spartan.
Your opinion goes against everything that I've read. I can't comment on your experiences, but your experiences don't change the general consensus that Sig is definitely higher end than STI and use forged internals with match triggers, whereas it appears that most STIs use polymer triggers with cast frames and slides. I'm sure that STI has its bases for using polymer triggers, but it's hardly objective to argue that it's superior when all of the big custom shops use forged metal parts.
For their lower end 1911s, STI is basically just rebranding and modifying Armscore (with cheap cast frames) parts from the Philippines. The custom work that they do might be good, but it doesn't change the fact that the foundation of the Trojan/Spartan is nothing special. Iver Johnson and RIA do almost the same thing with their sourced pistols, and they charge significantly less money than STI. Perhaps the overall finishing and complementary parts on the Iver/RIA are weaker, but I wouldn't spend $1K for a cast gun from the Philippines when the Iver is just $550. You're entitled to your love for STI, but it's unreasonable to claim that Sig's superior parts are inferior. Personally, I have no interest in STI. It doesn't matter that a lot of competition contestants use pistols because they aren't using the stock Trojan or Spartan anyway.
I might be completely wrong, but is STI now sourcing their frames/slides from other companies?
I would take the Ruger for sure because it's American and is much cheaper. With the savings, you can get very nice, truly custom work done.
For their lower end 1911s, STI is basically just rebranding and modifying Armscore (with cheap cast frames) parts from the Philippines. The custom work that they do might be good, but it doesn't change the fact that the foundation of the Trojan/Spartan is nothing special. Iver Johnson and RIA do almost the same thing with their sourced pistols, and they charge significantly less money than STI. Perhaps the overall finishing and complementary parts on the Iver/RIA are weaker, but I wouldn't spend $1K for a cast gun from the Philippines when the Iver is just $550. You're entitled to your love for STI, but it's unreasonable to claim that Sig's superior parts are inferior. Personally, I have no interest in STI. It doesn't matter that a lot of competition contestants use pistols because they aren't using the stock Trojan or Spartan anyway.
I might be completely wrong, but is STI now sourcing their frames/slides from other companies?
I would take the Ruger for sure because it's American and is much cheaper. With the savings, you can get very nice, truly custom work done.
Frames on MOST STI pistols are cast, slides are forged.
If You are so focused on the metallurgy, You should be aware that quite a lot of these superior parts of the current production SIG 1911 pistols are MIM.
Iver Johnson the same as STI?
Sorry, You need to relax.
