hunting in pairs, whos out of line?

I was invited on a couple days hunt with some fellows many years ago during the first week of the rifle season. We hunted three days and got 5 deer. Dropped the deer at the butcher's on the last day. A few days later I am invited by a friend as a fill in at their camp at the end of week two as one guy had to go home early. it would cost me X amount for my share. Good enough, I go for 3 nights and two days of hunting. We take 4 deer on the two hunts. They had 1 deer up to then. After that hunt the first party calls to say the meat is ready. We go to the butcher shop. Well I thought I was hearing and seeing things. I never saw such a fight ensue over who should get what amount of meat and what cuts? When asked my opinion the one guy in the group who was the chief hell raiser glared at me like he wanted to kill me. I think he would have tried to punch me if I wasn't twice his size. LOL! Well in the end they split it however they were splitting it and they all parted company on the spot as a hunting group, right then and there. I never saw such childish antics. Now for the second party, the fellow who invited me was a friend whom I hunted ducks with every weekend. We are out hunting ducks a few days later when he announces to me that the group felt since I was just a fill in I should not be entitled to any share. OK, I was there to help drag, gut and butcher 4 of their 5 deer. I paid my fees as expected but they felt my share should go the fellow whom I filled in for. I looked at my buddy and said, are you guys really that petty. You can't divide the meat into one more share? I mean 5 small deer for 11 guys vs 10 guys, holy, everyone might get 1/2 extra venison chop and a 1/2 pound more burger by cancelling out my share. I just laughed at him and said keep it.
 
I'll be honest - having never hunted myself and not being around anyone who did up until the last year or so, I would've just assumed you split the meat equally and the guy who got the kill keeps the antlers...

I'm definately going to go one year, though....
 
I think he's wrong for being greedy. I think the OP is wrong for whining about it on a forum rather than talking to his hunting "partner" (in quotes because obviously neither one knows what the word means).
 
the spank said:
I was invited on a couple days hunt with some fellows many years ago during the first week of the rifle season. We hunted three days and got 5 deer. Dropped the deer at the butcher's on the last day. A few days later I am invited by a friend as a fill in at their camp at the end of week two as one guy had to go home early. it would cost me X amount for my share. Good enough, I go for 3 nights and two days of hunting. We take 4 deer on the two hunts. They had 1 deer up to then. After that hunt the first party calls to say the meat is ready. We go to the butcher shop. Well I thought I was hearing and seeing things. I never saw such a fight ensue over who should get what amount of meat and what cuts? When asked my opinion the one guy in the group who was the chief hell raiser glared at me like he wanted to kill me. I think he would have tried to punch me if I wasn't twice his size. LOL! Well in the end they split it however they were splitting it and they all parted company on the spot as a hunting group, right then and there. I never saw such childish antics. Now for the second party, the fellow who invited me was a friend whom I hunted ducks with every weekend. We are out hunting ducks a few days later when he announces to me that the group felt since I was just a fill in I should not be entitled to any share. OK, I was there to help drag, gut and butcher 4 of their 5 deer. I paid my fees as expected but they felt my share should go the fellow whom I filled in for. I looked at my buddy and said, are you guys really that petty. You can't divide the meat into one more share? I mean 5 small deer for 11 guys vs 10 guys, holy, everyone might get 1/2 extra venison chop and a 1/2 pound more burger by cancelling out my share. I just laughed at him and said keep it.
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What a bunch of pathetic douchebags.
 
A friend helped me track and finish a moose I wounded last year. He got half the meat. This year he came by and helped gut one and hang it. He'll get a few cuts since I shot it, drug it home and did all the cutting and wrapping solo. I have about 36 hours of work into the moose, he has an hour. With the first one his help was vital to getting the animal = equal share (even though I was still on my own for the butchering). The second involved him holding legs and pulling on a chain hoist < equal share. I did fill a doe tag though and gave him the whole deer (he gets to cut and wrap it though).
 
Ummmm you guys read the part in the op where it is explained that this "buddy" doesn't have his hunting license, doesn't even have his PAL and is interested in getting into hunting right?

I agree with everyone here who is proudly proclaiming that they split the meat 50/50 with their hunting partner but someone who doesn't have a gun or hunting licence is not what I would consider a "partner".

If I didn't even have my PAL yet and was thinking of getting into hunting and I tagged along on your hunt, would you give me half of the meat? And if I then tried to claim all of the sausage/burger trimmings you wouldn't raise an eyebrow?
 
I hunt with a group - doesnt matter if 1 guy gets all the shooting, we split it all up evenly when we are done butchering.
Everybody gets an equal share. Doesnt matter if someone has to leave to go to work for a day or if someone is sick or whatever. Everyone in th egroup gets an identical/equal share.

Example - 6 guys:
Get 6 boxes - put a roast in each one, repeat till roasts are done, Put 1lb burger in each one, repeat.....pour 3 seconds of rum in a glass, add some coke, repeat....laugh a bunch, tell stories about each other, repeat, tease the hell out of the new guy, etc..... Each guy takes a box.
 
Bigbubba said:
I hunt with a group - doesnt matter if 1 guy gets all the shooting, we split it all up evenly when we are done butchering.
Everybody gets an equal share. Doesnt matter if someone has to leave to go to work for a day or if someone is sick or whatever. Everyone in th egroup gets an identical/equal share.

Example - 6 guys:
Get 6 boxes - put a roast in each one, repeat till roasts are done, Put 1lb burger in each one, repeat.....pour 3 seconds of rum in a glass, add some coke, repeat....laugh a bunch, tell stories about each other, repeat, tease the hell out of the new guy, etc..... Each guy takes a box.
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Makes sense but what do you do with the example the OP presented:
2 guys, one is hunting and the other doesn't have a PAL, hasn't taken his hunter safety course, has no gun, licence, or tag.
The guy hunting shows the other guy what is involved in deer hunting and butchering. How do you fill the two boxes then?
 
Bigbubba said:
Exactly the same. Is he trying to teach the guy about hunting? Or is he trying to teach him how to be a stingy petty Selfish SOB?
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If I was just thinking about getting into guns and hunting and someone took the time to take me out and show me how he does it, I'd be happy with the experience and wisdom gained...that would be plenty.

I guess I'm old-fashioned...if you took someone out to "show them the ropes" with respect to deer hunting and offered them some of the fruits of your labour, I would object to anyone calling you a "stingy petty Selfish SOB" like you are doing to the OP.
 
Maybe it's different out here, or just my group. It's always been your deer, your meat. If someone gets something we will help equally, but the shooter takes the meat. However, everyone gets a deer every year, so we know that even though today may have not been the day for you to get a deer, that day will come further down in the season and we will be there to help. If a buddy doesn't get a deer and needs some meat he will have no problem getting some from everyone.
 
My friends and I usually split everything, but I will only hunt with a very select few people. Only exception is sheep hunting and there you get what you pack. Took a guy out and got him a ram one year. He'd never hunted sheep before and whined the whole 3 days we were out, took another guy on that trip as well but we only took the one sheep. He whined about climbing and how heavy his pack was etc....etc....etc. Boned the sheep out and caped it and he carried the cape and horns, when we tried to split the meat 3 ways for the pack out he whined even louder. My other friend and I carried all the meat plus all the camping goods, spotting scope, tent while the shooter carried his personal gear (none of the shared gear) and cape and horns. When we arrived back at the truck he questioned when we were going to split up the meat, to which he was curtly told that had already been done 8 miles back. He went instantly to my "hunting ignore list" after that trip.
Lately I've been giving all my meat to whom ever I hunt with or a group of people who I know are having a tough time making ends meet. I really don't need it and a lot of it I no longer enjoy anymore. The hearts and tenderloins are about all I enjoy, the rest gets distributed. I just enjoy getting out once in a while.

It has been my experience that every group has it's own rules shall we say, I've done very little party hunting in my life and those times I did different groups did things differently. Some were "you get what you shoot" and others were equal splits all around. There is no right or wrong it all depends on what is agreed to or understood in the group. I have noticed that the understanding of meat splitting has a lot to do with age and financial where-with-all, which makes perfect sense.

To the OP;
Don't get disgruntled about it all, just explain rationally to your buddy that this is the way things are done, and when he gets his own lisence and tags and shoots a deer with you, it will be the same for him.
 
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cam1936 said:
Maybe it's different out here, or just my group. It's always been your deer, your meat. If someone gets something we will help equally, but the shooter takes the meat. However, everyone gets a deer every year, so we know that even though today may have not been the day for you to get a deer, that day will come further down in the season and we will be there to help. If a buddy doesn't get a deer and needs some meat he will have no problem getting some from everyone.
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this. in my country if you don't shoot a deer its because you didn't find one you really wanted to shoot. you definitely passed up alot of animals if you don't get one. we go by the shooter keeps deer, but elk and moose we divide up. in this instance though I think no meat should have been expected.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
Second thread this morning about someone whining about the next guy getting or expecting more.
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Yeah, no kidding...maybe these two groups need to do a bit of partner-swapping?

I rarely hunt with anyone else. When I do, it's understood that all meat is shared equally...but there is always the chance of the "jerk" factor rearing its ugly head.

The Ontario moose group that I once belonged to shared all meat, and antlers normally went to the shooter. When one of the guys shot a bull one year that the tag was in my name, he took those horns and I didn't dispute it...I had no interest in someone else's trophy anyways. A few years later I was the shooter, he was the tag holder...and he insisted on keeping the horns! I couldn't legally stop him...his tag after all. That was the beginning of the end for that group.
 
jjohnwm said:
. A few years later I was the shooter, he was the tag holder...and he insisted on keeping the horns! I couldn't legally stop him...his tag after all. That was the beginning of the end for that group.
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Im the same.

I couldnt' understand what anybody would want in somebody else's trophy ? I have zero interest in any horn i didnt' shoot.
 
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