Black powder cannon or mortar rules and regs...questions??

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What are the regs concerning a black powder mortar or cannon? Probably has to be muzzle loaded,fuse only,no HE devices allowed, no preformed charges allowed...any thing else?
 
as long as its mozzleloading and it dose not use a cap your good to go your can pre measure your charges nothing wrong with that

only regulation on non antique classsed artillery now is you have to register it as a controlled device thats every thing from early 1899 to now heck if i could find one id have a british 2" mortar
 
antiqueguy said:
as long as its mozzleloading and it dose not use a cap your good to go your can pre measure your charges nothing wrong with that

only regulation on non antique classsed artillery now is you have to register it as a controlled device thats every thing from early 1899 to now heck if i could find one id have a british 2" mortar
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How would one go about registering it as a controlled device?
 
antiqueguy said:
only regulation on non antique classsed artillery now is you have to register it as a controlled device thats every thing from early 1899 to now heck if i could find one id have a british 2" mortar
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I cannot find that regulation in the Firearms Act or the CCC or regulations - have you got a citation for that? There are a few folks around who may need to know this, if correct.
 
If it is touch hole fired, it qualifies as antique.
If it is percussion, it would qualify as a non-restricted firearm; registration is no longer required.
If it is a reproduction of an antique, I doubt if the DGD would have any interest.
If it is a modern drop fired mortar, DGD might get involved.
 
NorthCoastBigBore said:
I cannot find that regulation in the Firearms Act or the CCC or regulations - have you got a citation for that? There are a few folks around who may need to know this, if correct.
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its not in the firearms act as up till a few years ago you could buy one and walk out with it nothing needed now you have to register it with the gov as a controled device i think this was to make the UN happy there was a thread a few months back on this i think it was in the marstar part of the form
 
tiriaq said:
If it is touch hole fired, it qualifies as antique.
If it is percussion, it would qualify as a non-restricted firearm; registration is no longer required.
If it is a reproduction of an antique, I doubt if the DGD would have any interest.
If it is a modern drop fired mortar, DGD might get involved.
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thank you for this
 
I just sent a querry to a golf ball cannon manufacturer in the US. He will ship them to Canada but without the flash hole drilled, this after chatting with our good friends at CBSA. There must be a problem with these things being WMDs when they have a completed flash hole; personally I think it is bureaucratic policy making in action.
 
junkdude said:
I just sent a querry to a golf ball cannon manufacturer in the US. He will ship them to Canada but without the flash hole drilled, this after chatting with our good friends at CBSA. There must be a problem with these things being WMDs when they have a completed flash hole; personally I think it is bureaucratic policy making in action.
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its antique if its muzzleloading with a fuse or lose powder to set it off(even a flintlock)

but there has been truble getting them in country from the US the flash hole not being drilled may help
 
Regarding muzzle=loading cannon. I have been reenacting for some 20 years, and have manufactured
from signal guns to 3 inch ordinance rifles. There is no regulation as to the firing methods ie. linstock & quill,
or flintlock or percussion so long as it is not breech loading. There are regulations as to firing objects out
of them which is a no-no. When I first started reenacting, I was trained by reenactors who recommended
I buy a book written by Matt Switlick called "The more complete cannonneer". I was also warned to be
responsible and relish the fact that there was no regulations. If, however, I was the cause of regulations
being adopted, I would be "ostracized" (that's a mild interpretation of what they really said).
Cannons are dangerous toys and should not be "toyed" with by inexperienced persons.
 
canadianfencible said:
Regarding muzzle=loading cannon. I have been reenacting for some 20 years, and have manufactured
from signal guns to 3 inch ordinance rifles. There is no regulation as to the firing methods ie. linstock & quill,
or flintlock or percussion so long as it is not breech loading. There are regulations as to firing objects out
of them which is a no-no. When I first started reenacting, I was trained by reenactors who recommended
I buy a book written by Matt Switlick called "The more complete cannonneer". I was also warned to be
responsible and relish the fact that there was no regulations. If, however, I was the cause of regulations
being adopted, I would be "ostracized" (that's a mild interpretation of what they really said).
Cannons are dangerous toys and should not be "toyed" with by inexperienced persons.
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you can live fire a cannon here but you need a good backstop and no percussion is not antique just as new made percussion rifles and shotguns are not antique

US regultions mean nothing and so do reenacting regulations
 
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