any IPSC shooters here want to give a newb a tip??

Right now I think Classic is probably the best division to start out in.

Pat, I'm curious to hear you recommend starting out in Classic. That's what I did (for purely logistical reasons), and I love it, but it seems to be contrary to popular wisdom. What's you're rationale?
 
What Pistol to use? The one that you like the feel and operation of the best. I shoot Standard with an STI in 40... but that's because I like STIs and how they and other 1911 or related designs fit and feel in use.

Seriously consider 9mm as it is cheaper than either 40 or 45 to shoot and if you are at all interested in doing well or being even somewhat active you will use more ammo than you would think possible. Its easy to run through 500-1000 rounds in a weekend of practice or training. So that's the other thing can you sustain that kind of expenditure on a regular basis. As you have guessed ammo costs rapidly outstrip pistol costs if you play or practice often.

You're going to shoot a LOT, so the pistol has to feel good, and work reliably... Glock, M&P, USP, CZ, 1911/2011, Tangfolio... The more exotic guns cost more and also require more "maintenance" than the ones like Glocks. I love the idea of a low maintenance pistol like the Glock and how reliable it is, but I hate the feel, grip angle and trigger... YMMV
 
Lol...I tend to be contrary to popular opinion!
I have a few reasons I think Classic makes a good starter division. But it also depends on where you are coming from and what your plans are. If you already have a flock, CZ, Beretta, then you might as well shoot what you got so you might be a productikn shooter. If you are looking at staying in whatever division you start in, you might be a production shooter.
But if you don't have a gun, not sure what division you want to shoot, and want to get started for low cost Classic is a great division. The basic gun will cost about the same as a decent production gun. The mags, holsters and accessories are plentiful and inexpensive for 1911's. You don't have to worry about and mods like grip tape, engraving, racing stripes or other silly things bumping you to Open so you can tweak your gun and stay in division (obviously there are some things that can still bump you but you have a lot more latitude in Classic). You will already have experience on the 1911 platform if you choose to move to either Standard or Open division down the road. You have a gun with a lighter, easier to learn trigger, no 5lb DA to deal with and you can modify it as light (within safety) as you want with out getting bumped to Open. Not to mention you'll already have the basic spares on hand like spare extractors, pins, links, trigger parts (sear, disconnector, hammers) if you move to Standard or Open. Basically for the same cost as a Production gun you can get a 1911 and get started in IPSC but also be on a common platform with Standard and Open guns should you decide to go that route.
 
Lol...I tend to be contrary to popular opinion!

...Basically for the same cost as a Production gun you can get a 1911 and get started in IPSC but also be on a common platform with Standard and Open guns should you decide to go that route.

Interesting. Thanks!
 
Lol....well I can understand wanting to shoot a 1911 in .45, my Kimber is a .45, but the cost savings for shooting a 9mm or .40 is just one consideration for shooting minor. Another is the added capacity. Classic rules (for those that don't know) allow 10 rounds in the mag if you shoot minor but only 8 if you shoot major. So the game becomes do you want the extra points for shooting major or the time saved shooting minor. Some courses of fire, Anywhere there is 9 rounds from one position, severly handicap a major gun. A minor gun can carry on but a major gun will have to do a slide lock reload and depending on the layout possibly have to do a slide lock reload for every reload through a course of fire. 9 round short courses that start unloaded automatically drop anyone shooting a major gun by about 30% (or more) as they will have to reload in the middle of the string where a minor gun won't. Good courses of fire will eliminate this advantage but any stage where you see ports with 8, 8, 8, 8, will give the advantage to the minor gun.


The current Canadian Classic Division champion started shooting Classic in minor citing many of the same reasons. However, he soon discovered that any time gained by the extra capacity was not enough to make up for the loss of points. He now shoots major. As he likes to say: "I'm not good enough to shoot minor".
 
I think the op needs to find some better club members to talk face to face with. They are there... somewhere.

I'm my case I was given the opportunity to shoot a pile of different firearms. One shooter loves their glock. I didn't. Another loves the CZ Shadow. I really liked that one and almost bought one. But I ended up going with a 2011 in 40. I love the 1911 platform with the big fat double stack grip. And that's just me. And that's the way it is. You'll never know until you try one.

That being said I would "suggest" a Shadow in 9mm. If you don't like it they hold their price pretty good. And 9mm production is going to be the cheapest way to try out IPSC.
 
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